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thomasg76 July 18, 2010 09:59 PM

Need some help with new build.
 


I am building my own system and i am still swaying between getting an i7 860 or an i7 930.

I wanna use the system to mainly do pictures and edit HD Video, but i am also very tempted to put a nive Graphics card in to be able to game.

So far i have these two setups. My budget is 2500 A$

i7 930 Setup:

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB ST31000528AS
CoolerMaster GX 750W PSU
Pioneer BDR-205 Blu-ray Disc Writer OEM
CoolerMaster HAF 922 Case
Intel Core i7 930
LG E2340V 23inch Widescreen LED Monitor
XFX ATI Radeon HD5870
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R Motherboard Rev2.0
G.Skill Ripjaws F3-12800CL8T-6GBRM (3x2GB) DDR3 or Corsair XMS2 CL8 TR3X6G1600C8G
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM
TOTAL 2361 A$

For this build i read a lot of reviews of the mother board and memory and heard heps of pros and cons. it seems the UD3R is quite picky with memory. So i am not a 100% sure about the mobo. Also i am not a 100% sure about the monitior as i am not a big fan of LG. Alternative i was looking at the Samsung P2350, th enicer thing on the lg is that it is LED rather than LCD. ANyone eny expirience with it ?

i7 860 setup:

XFX ATI Radeon HD5870
CoolerMaster HAF 922 Case
LG E2340V 23inch Widescreen LED Monitor
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB ST31000528AS
CoolerMaster GX 750W PSU
Pioneer BDR-205 Blu-ray Disc Writer OEM
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM
Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3R Motherboard
G.Skill Ripjaws F3-12800CL8D-4GBRM (2x2GB) DDR3
Intel Core i7 860
Total :2178 A$

This build saves a couple of hundred Dollars but i am worried when i wanna upgrade and maybe run Sata3 and USB3 at some stage it will impact the system performance.

Which platform is better to overclock ?







Is it worth going up to a better board like th eUD5 or ASUS ?

It won't be a gaming machine soley so is the 5870 a bit overkill ?

IS GT470 or 5850 better ?

Any feedback wanted

ZZLEE July 18, 2010 10:23 PM

I have read that fore Vidio Nividia is better maybe 470 or 460 1GB ? The pros use as many as they can fit in and the best they can aford. And Quatro versions fore coding.

I think that yiu should ge a moutherbord with native USB 3support its 10 times fater than USB2. E stata is like lightning compared to USB.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...&v=PqlqCoQMLsQ

Linus comparing USB 3, USB 2 , E stata,

Alot of vidio peopele Use Firewire it is not compaired

New Board shopRBC.com :: Asus RAMPAGE III GENE X58 S1366 ATX Mainboard

Zero82z July 19, 2010 10:55 AM

Ditch the PSU and go with something better. The Coolermaster GX line is not good.

xlilmissmjx July 19, 2010 11:00 AM

Both builds look great but here are my thoughts...
 
I would suggest going for a corsair psu instead, go with their AX,HX or TX series 750W psu. AX is their gold rated modular series, HX is their silver rated modular series and their TX series 80+ rated non modular series. I always recommend going modular due to easier cable management, but it's entirely up to you.

The G Skill F3-12800CL8T-6GBRM/4GBRM sets look great but if you have a wide heatsink then a low profile set would be better suited, like the F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ/4GBNQ.

I highly recommend getting an aftermarket heatsink, the cooler master hyper 212 plus performs excellent and is a fan favourite too :haha:

Good luck with you build :thumb:

_dangtx_ July 19, 2010 11:22 AM

between those two, 1156 with a nice 3440 xeon chippie. the 460 is a very good bang.buck card. get the giga board with usb3 and such

kendallcschm July 19, 2010 12:02 PM

i think the first setup is the best.. the 930 ... i personally favor the ATI cards... i think they are powerful and over all reliable cards..

thomasg76 July 19, 2010 06:22 PM

I thought the CooleMater would be a good PSu as it is 80+ certified but the Corsair TX750 is not. It looks pretty good in the reviews though besides not beeing Modular.

i think i will tend more to the Corsair TX750. Both of them have a single 12V rail.

thomasg76 July 19, 2010 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlilmissmjx (Post 405175)
I would suggest going for a corsair psu instead, go with their AX,HX or TX series 750W psu. AX is their gold rated modular series, HX is their silver rated modular series and their TX series 80+ rated non modular series. I always recommend going modular due to easier cable management, but it's entirely up to you.

The G Skill F3-12800CL8T-6GBRM/4GBRM sets look great but if you have a wide heatsink then a low profile set would be better suited, like the F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ/4GBNQ.

I highly recommend getting an aftermarket heatsink, the cooler master hyper 212 plus performs excellent and is a fan favourite too :haha:

Good luck with you build :thumb:

How do you know which one has a low profile or not (besides owning them hehe) ?

The main reason why i chose them is because they were on the Gigbyte UD3R Motherboard compatibillity list and it seems a lot of people have issues with buying the wrong memory.
I also chose them because they have a lower Latency of 8.

I am planning on using probably the Noctuna NH-C12P SE14 at a later stage.

thomasg76 July 19, 2010 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZZLEE (Post 405044)
I have read that fore Vidio Nividia is better maybe 470 or 460 1GB ? The pros use as many as they can fit in and the best they can aford. And Quatro versions fore coding.

I think that yiu should ge a moutherbord with native USB 3support its 10 times fater than USB2. E stata is like lightning compared to USB.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...&v=PqlqCoQMLsQ

Linus comparing USB 3, USB 2 , E stata,

Alot of vidio peopele Use Firewire it is not compaired

New Board shopRBC.com :: Asus RAMPAGE III GENE X58 S1366 ATX Mainboard


I didn't think the GPU would make too much difference when processing encoding video as most of it is Memory HDD and CPU access.

Rison July 20, 2010 05:32 AM

A 930 will overclock better(higher and easier) than an 860. Hands down.
I have two 860s, one 920 D0 and one 930.. and the 860s are a (insert explicit word here) to overclock. The x58 platforum supports the newer 6-core processors, if upgrading down the road is of any issue.

6GB of triple channel will out perform 4GB dual channel in video encoding - that's pretty straight forward.

As for encoding, (I have been told) the Nvidia line is better for offsetting video rendering, if you're going that route.. however I haven't seen any exact figures or numbers - and I only have Nvidia GPUs at home (because of folding@home) so i'm just going on what other people / forums have told me.

Most people will recommend the WD blacks as a primary hard drive. I have a bunch of 7200.12's and they work fine.. but if you ask around, apparently they have a high defect / clicking rate.
If you have coin to spare (or, make up somewhere else.. say not needing a blu-ray) a 60-120 gig sandforce SSD is the best hard drive out there.. OCZ vertex2 / Gskill Phoenix / Corsair Force being the most popular. Load times for programs would be exceptionally faster.. couple that with a secondary 640G/1TB WD black for data, and you'd have a kick-ass performer.


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