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Old June 12, 2010, 08:33 AM
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I am new to building computers from scratch and am in need of some advice. I have been trying to choose parts for my new build, but am not sure which brands work and don't work. This is my build so far:

Case: Cooler Master 690 II Advanced
Newegg.ca - COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Advanced Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
CPU : AMD Phenom II X4 965BE
Newegg.ca - AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-790FXTA
Newegg.ca - GIGABYTE GA-790FXTA-UD5 AM3 AMD 790FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
RAM : Kingston HyperX 4GB KHX1600C8D3K2
Newegg.ca - Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C8D3K2/4GX
PSU : Corsair CMPSU-750TX 750W
Newegg.ca - CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply

I know for sure I want the CPU, but I am still not sure about the motherboard and ram.

How is the overall build so far?
Was the motherboard a good choice?
Was the ram a good choice?
What other parts would you recommend over the one's I have chosen?

Suggestions on any of the parts I picked will be much appreciated. Thanks in advanced for all the help.
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Old June 12, 2010, 09:11 AM
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Giga make good boards, no doubt about that, but wou should go with an 890FX board. It's the latest from AMD and much more worth the time now.

What kind of GPU you throwning in this? Need to know if PSU is able to handle it (i have high doubts it can't power any of the latest GPU's on the market). Also, you should look into modular PSU. makes cable management ALOT easier!

CPU is a great choice, but if your interested, just pick up a lower clocked Black edition CPU from AMD and overclock. BE processors have unlocked multipliers so overclocking is a breeze

Also, you might wanna look into a good budget CPU cooler if you plan to do this, such as the Cooler Master Hyper 212+. throw some solid 120mm fans on it and your good to go.
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Old June 12, 2010, 09:28 AM
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Thanks for the suggestion, here are the changes:

Case: Cooler Master 690 II Advanced
Newegg.ca - COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Advanced Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
CPU : AMD Phenom II X4 965BE
Newegg.ca - AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-890FXA
Newegg.ca - GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD5 AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
RAM : Kingston HyperX 4GB KHX1600C8D3K2
Newegg.ca - Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C8D3K2/4GX
PSU : Corsair CMPSU-750TX 750W (Modular or Non-Modular)
Newegg.ca - CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
Or
Newegg.ca - CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

I have a couple of questions:
I know that Modular PSU's make for greater wire management, but is it really worth the ~$50-60 price difference?

For the GPU since this is sort of a budget build, I am still not sure if I want to stick with my old video card (Nvidia 9500) or switch to something new. Any Suggestions?
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Old June 12, 2010, 09:31 AM
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Knowing both your budget and what you are going to be using it for will help us advise you in the right direction, otherwise we're making stabs in the dark
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Old June 12, 2010, 09:32 AM
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Welcome to HWC, Charmster

Here is a cheaper set of RAM
G.Skill
Newegg.ca - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM

CoolerMaster Hyper 212+ Heatsink (Price match to Best Direct )
Newegg.ca - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long life sleeve CPU Cooler

GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD5 ($5 cheaper before taxes than 790 board)
Newegg.ca - GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD5 AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard


Use Price Canada or Shopbot.ca for finding lowest prices and price matcing.

This thread may help you when asking for advice:
NOTICE - PC builders, when asking for input on YOUR projects Please Tell

Hope this helps,
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Old June 12, 2010, 09:44 AM
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Sorry, Here is all the information I forgot.

Budget: ~$1000 CAD

Parts:
Case: Cooler Master 690 II Advanced
Newegg.ca - COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Advanced Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
CPU : AMD Phenom II X4 965BE
Newegg.ca - AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-890FXA
Newegg.ca - GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD5 AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
RAM : Kingston HyperX 4GB KHX1600C8D3K2
Newegg.ca - Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C8D3K2/4GX
PSU : Corsair CMPSU-750TX 750W (Modular or Non-Modular)
Newegg.ca - CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
Or
Newegg.ca - CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

Uses:
Mainly for gaming and internet, maybe some rendering.
I plan to OC the CPU to ~3.6-3.8Ghz eventually, but that will be something to consider after I get the computer up and running.

Questions:
As for heat sinks, I was wondering if the stock cooler would be sufficient? I plan on adding more fans to the case itself further down the road, so I was wondering if that would make up for the lack of an after market cooler.
I was also looking at the Corsair H50, CPU cooler better then air heatsinks ?
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Old June 12, 2010, 09:54 AM
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Cooler Master Hyper 212+ would be a much better and cheaper air heatsink alternative. I have been using it for almost a year, on the rig in my signature and its been a great low cost heatsink. Seeing as you're not going for a large oc and even if you were, the hyper 212+ is probably one of the best air heat sinks around until you get into the high end (more expensive) ones.
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Old June 12, 2010, 09:57 AM
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I had a response typed up but the forum crapped out. I will not be typing it all again.

- Take Pete's suggestions, especially the Hyper 212+ if you plan on any OC
- 750TX is fine. The HX is better, but the Tx will suit you no problem.
- What resolution do you game at? Makes a difference in the GPU folks will suggest.
- If you are rendering, consider a new Phenom II X6 (6 core).
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expensive cpu for an amd quad. rooster has the same one used for 125 i think in the fs forums.


good psu choices, decent case. superb cooler choice. good selection on giga's list tehre. might want to go for a 100 or maybe lower board if you have no use for usb3.

video card?
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Old June 12, 2010, 07:35 PM
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+1 for the 6 core. Well within price range of quad. Everything else looks good to go. Keep an eye on the bst, you can get quite a few good components for great prices. For everything else, be sure to price check. Good luck and enjoy the build!!!
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