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Old June 5, 2010, 10:44 AM
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I've steadily decided on some parts for what I hope is a cheap gaming pc and could use some help. I have some old parts and am mainly deciding on a video card and case. I have an Athlon II X3 (2.9)Newegg.com - AMD Athlon II X3 435 Rana 2.9GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Processor and am deciding on a Gigabyte GA-770TA-UD3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128419 .

PURCHASING: this week

USAGE: lite gaming and some video/audio editing; surf the net, Office, other applications. None of my games are newer than 2007. I have: Tomb Raider legend, Call of Duty2, KOTOR, WoW, Half Life 2, NeverWinter Nights 2, Doom3. That will keep me busy until I get bitten by something else.

PARTS HAVE: peripherals, Turbolink 500W PS - I know I know, but it's only 6 month's old I think it'll do for half a year(Apevia / Aspire ATX-CW500P4 500W TurboLink ATX 12V (Ver) 2.03 (24P) Dual-Fan 500W ATX Power Supply w/ 2x Fans, SATA : ATX-CW500P4 (20/24 Pin, Retail)) . New cpu, unboxed.

SOURCING: Newegg, online

OC: down the road* (If I have to right away to get full AA, etc. video I think I'll replace the PS)

MONITOR: 19" Dell CRT, small lcd. Getting 22" LCD this summer.

COMMENTS: run XP Pro & have upgrade 7, w/I want to run flawlessly including virtual modes. Will use removable HD's for other OS's - Win7 R.C., some flavor of Linux (hope any driver issues aren't too hard). Also, want as much video detail as possible: maxed out.

Pretty firm on the following ram: G. Skill Ripjaw 1333 4GB mdl F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH. 7-7-7-21 and 1.5V but newegg sold out last week and I'm not posting a link to where I found it. Paranoid.

Now I'm not interested in CrossFire, IGP maybe. Figure all my money will go into a 5770 or similar. Believe by upgrading cpu and 1 video card down the line I can keep it simple.

Don't want to really spend more than $100 on the card if I don't have to but figure invest in something now vs. be upgrading and lose $ in a year. Very lite video editing, don't have any software picked out yet.

I think this mobo will have some legs. I think the ram will too - be better for OC vs. slower CAS ram. OC when I get to newer games. By the time 4-5 years rolls around all the slots, ram will be different.

Thinking I'd like a better, quiet HSF now IF I have to OC to help w/ top video quality but think it's not likely I'll need to yet. Thinking I'll apply the silver cpu grease now so same type later unless you can clean it off really well. Like the Scythe SCKTN-3000 92mm Sleeve "KATANA3" but also the new CoolIT ECO's but don't know much about 'em. If needed, want something not too boxy, jutting out near the ram and not too tall as I don't know what case yet.

Mostly want to nail down a card and pick a case. Assume those video cards will sound like a banshee so want a quiet case. Lian Li and Yeong yi seems good quality & solid/quiet but $$. A few I like in my price range: the CM Centurion 534 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119106, the GB GZ-X8BPDX-400 if it was all black http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 811233050. I Really like the look of the Antec 300 Black http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129042 but want to stay away from bottom PS and think all those vents will be noisy. I want to try tool-less, at least for drives, and like those newer drive cages. Need 3-4 5" front drives for the removable HD's and would like a 120mm fan at bottom in front. But quiet case, for what I can afford to throw at the problem

Thanx for your help. I'm losing eyesight and sleep researching this stuff. But it's more fun than t-shooting software.

Appreciate it,

Mac
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Old June 5, 2010, 01:38 PM
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can you plz make the font a smudge bigger, hurts me eyes :)


that psu any good? ;)
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Old June 5, 2010, 02:24 PM
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That PSU is literally a piece of garbage. I strongly recommend you purchase a quality unit before you actually put your system together. If you would like specific recommendations, post a budget and I'll list a few good options.
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First of all, bottom mounted PSU's are better for cable management and noise in the case depends on what fans you use. The lower the quality the louder it will be.

Don't get the Katana 3. It is outdated and expensive. The Coolermaster 212+ is ~30 bucks and will be more quiet due to having a bigger fan.

If you don't mind, you could go for used XFX 5770's. That way it is cheaper and you still have 2nd hand warranty.

The PSU is literally the heart of the computer. IF you have a bad heart, you will die and take everything down. Bad!
A 400W QUALITY unit (Corsair 400W, Seasonic 400W, Sparkle 400W) is probably better than that POS psu.
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Thanks for the feedback. I'll breakdown and get a better PSU, Zero. But I read that bottom mounting could impact cables not reaching the mobo. Otherwise there's more cases I like that I've written off that mount on the bottom so that's good. I can hold off on a good HSF card but, if I didn't ask in the first post, should I attach the cpu fan using better 'silver' grease or does that stuff clean off pretty well? If I wait to oc/HSF I don't want two different compounds in between. Jcmaz, any recommendations on where to get used 5770's? Haven't looked on this site yet but I wonder about warranty's when people oc their cards as well.

Thanks very much for the help!

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Overclock.net, Craigslist, Kijiji, HERE!!!
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Thanks for the feedback. I'll breakdown and get a better PSU, Zero. But I read that bottom mounting could impact cables not reaching the mobo. Otherwise there's more cases I like that I've written off that mount on the bottom so that's good.
Any quality PSU that I would recommend to you will have sufficiently long cables for mid-tower cases like the ones you're looking at. That really isn't much of a concern.
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