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Old May 10, 2010, 12:58 AM
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1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.

Heavy Gaming, photoshop, movies. I play crysis, Cod4, Battlefield BC2, and other new games.

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread

not looking to spend more than $300... $400 tops.

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.

CAAAAAAAANNNAAADDDDDDAAAAAAAAAA! (if the usa has parts wayyy cheaper, then I'll buy them from down south..)

4. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc, etc, etc, you get the picture.

I like the ATI line of gfx cards... and Intel.

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.

I'm keeping the case, monitor, motherboard, hdds....

6. IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads.

Nothing that quite asks this exact question, but yes I've done my research.

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.

I want to overclock on air.

8. WHEN do you plan to build it?

Within 2 months

9. What resolution do you use?

24" monitor 1920x1080 HD


I have:

P5Q3 Wifi Deluxe MOBO holding a Xeon e3110 (aka e8400) running at 3.6ghz right now
4 gigs of Patriot Viper DDR3
ATI HD 4850 gfx card
A couple 1tb hdds
vx 450w Corsair psu
No sound card



THE QUESTION:

Most cost effective upgrade? I'm thinking of moving to a HD 5770 gfx card ($200) and a sound card ($50). Would moving to a quad core 775 CPU and OCing it make any difference with general performance? I know dual cores are better for games right NOW, but I'm thinking for the future...


What would you guys say?

some good advice I've read:

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Honestly, I'd say your best upgrade path is to hold out until you can afford a P55 or 890GX build. You might see an increase in performance by getting a new 775 CPU, but it's a big money sink for something that you'll probably want to replace soon enough anyway. For about the same price as a Q6600 (not quite sure what they're going for now, since Newegg no longer sells them, think it's around $200) you could get an i5 750 which kills the Q6600 in benchmarks. It's like upgrading to a 285 right now; you'll get more performance, but with Fermi coming out in a couple weeks that's what you'll end up wanting anyway, and then you're stuck with outdated hardware until your next upgrade.
Should I just wait and move to an i7 later on in life?

I dont NEED to upgrade right now, I'm just getting the bug and a bit of cash flow.

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Old May 10, 2010, 06:34 AM
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5850 but what psu do you have?
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Old May 10, 2010, 06:46 AM
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Agree on the 5850, any video card upgrade should be up around 3 performance levels, or so, to make it worthwhile. The jump to a 5850 would be a decent upgrade. For the quad, it'll help out for encoding and rendering. I noticed a larger difference going from an E8500 to an i5 750, cut about 40% off the time to process a dvd. If your psu is a quality unit, it'll handle a 5850, but if it's junk, I'd want to upgrade that first.
To give you an idea, check out the diablotech 1050 watt (yah right) review at jonnyguru. Wolf is way over the top on this one, seems like his insanity level may of peaked. You may want to avoid anything more of a cursory skim of the text on the first 3 pages, otherwise, regurgitation could result.
Diablotek RPM-1050 1050W Review
It is hilarious, in a twisted sort of way, and demonstrates just how low the shoddy manufacturer's of power supplies can stoop in their quest for sales to unsuspecting noobs. Classic!

Depending on your actual budget, you may want to consider an SSD, that is an upgrade that anyone would enjoy, they're snappy!
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Old May 10, 2010, 06:54 AM
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I've got a 9550, 8 gigs of patriot viper DDR3 7-7-7-20, 1333, and a XFX GTX 295 I'll soon be putting up if you're interested. PM me.
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Old May 10, 2010, 08:04 AM
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OOPS! I'm a dope- I forgot that my friend took back his 600w corsair and sold me his vx 450w. This is the review that got me to pick it up:

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 Good value for a reliable power supply. .  I'm  running pretty high end stuff with a 450watt PSU with absolutely no  hickups.  I'll list it below since I'm running out of space here.  Also,  this is an 80 PLUS PSU, which will keep your bill down for the cheapo  Asians that we are. ;)
- Intel Q6600  Quad-Core CPU
- Abit P35 Pro
- 4gb (4 DIMMs) Corsair XMS Dominator  RAM
- 2x 500gb Samsung Spinpoint 7200rpm 16mb cache HDs
- PNY  8800GTS 320bit 320mb
- Samsung DVD/CD burner

All running off  450watts with no problems whatsoever.  Don't be tricked by the gimmicks  of high wattage PSUs.
So yes, I will be getting a new PSU with my gfx card purchase.
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Old May 10, 2010, 08:10 AM
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I think your VX450 almost maxed out.

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Check with this PSU calculator
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Old May 10, 2010, 08:18 AM
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yeah itll be a tad too close.
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Old May 10, 2010, 08:34 AM
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I'll probably be upgrading to something like this:

Corsair HX650W Power Supply - 650-Watts, Modular, ATX, Single 12V Rail, 80 Plus Bronze at TigerDirect.com

650w of clean Corsair power... Need I go higher for the future?

So thats #1, and roughly $130. If I stick with my xeon e3110, I will be pushing it to 4ghz (I've done it before, but didn't do it properly, so I will be doing it right this time). Will that be any sort of bottleneck if I buy a 5850?
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I think if you keep an eye out for a sale that a 750 watt Corsair can be had for that price or less. Canada Computers has the 750 for $110 right now. Good luck.
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and of course look up fs section in here.
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