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Old January 15, 2010, 02:26 PM
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Hey Guys,
This is the first time I've built a system and I feel pretty confident about the assembly aspect of it, but in terms of part selection and incompatibility I could use some guidance.

Requisite Questions:
1. What YOUR PC will be used for. - Gaming primarily
2. What YOUR budget is. $800-850 before tax and shipping (lower is better)
3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from. - Canada
4. IF YOU have a brand preference. - Radeon over Nvidia, otherwise no
5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts - None
6. IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads. - yes, on various websites, though much of this build was from responses from a HardwareCanucks $800 gaming computer thread
7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds. - not sure, I'd like to try but it's new territory for me so I would like a machine with some overclock options that is still good at default specs.
8. WHEN do you plan to build it? - within the month

So here's what I have so far:
HARDDRIVE - 750Gb, 7200rpm
Newegg.ca - Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3750528AS 750GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
POWER SUPPLY - 550W
NCIX.com - Buy Corsair VX550W 550W ATX 12V 41A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan - CMPSU-550VX In Canada.
DVD DRIVE
Newegg.ca - SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA CD/DVD Burner - CD / DVD Burners
MEMORY - 4GB G.Skill
Newegg.ca - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10600CL9D-4GBNT - Desktop Memory
CASE
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45753&...nufacture=NZXT
MOTHERBOARD
Newegg.ca - ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards
VIDEOCARD - Radeon 5850
Newegg.ca - SAPPHIRE 100282SR Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card w/ATI Eyefinity - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
HEATSINK - Coolermaster 120mm sleeve cooler
Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER RR-CCH-LB12-GP 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler - CPU Fans & Heatsinks
PROCESSOR
Newegg.ca - AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops

Other than software, keyboard, mouse, speakers and a monitor is there anything else that I will still need?

Thanks for all the help so far,
Grant

EDIT: Deleted the second 4Gb memory and replaced with the motherboard, it was a posting mistake in the beginning - thanks

Updated the processor to the cheap AMD, added a heatsink and switched the video card for the 5850.
Current parts total $923 (which is over-budget because of the video card, but I can probably swing it)

Last edited by CanadianONE; January 16, 2010 at 04:48 AM. Reason: Updating Hardware specs for new comments
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Old January 15, 2010, 03:31 PM
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First of all, you are missing the motherboard.

Secondly, lose 4GB of memory, you don't need 8GB for gaming.

Third, have you considered a LGA 1156 platform with an i5 750? Performance wise it will destroy that cheap AMD quad. Cost wise should be more, so see if it's within your budget.

Fourth, and this may be stretching your budget even more, but if you can, bump that 4890 up to a 5850. You get a large performance gain, less power consumption, DX11 and Eyefinity support.

As for a custom heatsink for the CPU, it's always to good idea to get one from the start since it saves you the trouble of having to open up your system to install one later on, when you decide to OC.
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Old January 15, 2010, 05:11 PM
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so with the better processor, Newegg.ca - Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops the total cost goes from 850 to 950, which is already getting more pricy - the HD 4890 I felt was a good value at the $200 mark (the other option was the 5770 for $50 less) - whereas the HD 5850 Newegg.ca - XFX HD-585A-ZNFC Radeon HD 5850 (Cypress Pro) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card w/ATI Eyefinity - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards will bump the cost up another $100 which is a tough sell.

I can probably manage one of the two, so if I was only going to upgrade one of the two, which is more bang for the buck?
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Old January 15, 2010, 05:34 PM
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I think your first build is actually quite reasonable. If that truly is your first build plan then congrats, looks pretty solid.

Just remember you're missing the case yet...

That motherboard has the ability to unlock specific AMD processors like the X2 550. It's a gamble, but a good fair chunk of those 550BE processors unlock to quad core and then overclock to around 3.8ghz.

Make sure to buy the Coolermaster Hyper 212+ heatsink. It's an awesome cooler, and then the price makes it a real winner.

If you're in Vancouver area might make more sense to pricematch and pick up all your parts at NCIX
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Old January 15, 2010, 06:06 PM
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For gaming, ditching the i5 and grabbing a 5850 will definitely get you better performance. So go for the AMD route. And if you are going to OC, might as well get this and save $15. As for unlocking cores, it is kind of a gamble. Since the Athlon quads are so cheap I'd just go with an actual quad core. The extra cache makes almost no difference in games whatsoever.
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Old January 16, 2010, 10:43 AM
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As stated above, get the Hyper 212 Plus. Period.

I actually think you should get the Phenom II 520. It's very likely you can unlock it to a quad-core and they OC very well. They'll run games much better than AII x4s for the same price, even if you don't unlock them.

Also, what monitor resolution are you going to be playing at? A 5850 is relatively unnecessary unless you're at or over 1920 x 1200. I'd say a 5770 would do fine for you. They've gone down a bit in price as of late, whereas the 5850 is still VERY expensive.

Otherwise, the build looks great. Just make sure you plan to add a few fans to that case down the road; one 120mm fan is fine for starters, but it could get pretty hot in there with the right hardware.
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Old January 18, 2010, 02:05 PM
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Thanks everyone!

In regards to the Pheonom 520, I could only find the 550 online, unless you know a supplier? - I assume the above statement about the over clocking and superiority of the 520 holds true for the (presumably better) 550.
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=39335&...anufacture=AMD

My monitor is likely going to be fairly small, and native resolution will likewise be at most 1280x1024 so the 5770 is likely more worthwhile - which brings the net cost down to 850 again!

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My bad. Got confused about the model number. I was referring to the 550. The 550 vs 720 with the i5 750 always messes me up.
I can, however, tell you that NCIX is overcharging you on the 550. There's one on Newegg.ca for $20 cheaper.

A 5770 is actually somewhat overkill for 1280 x 1024. You could probably drop down to a 5750 if you wanted to and get good FPS, but a 5770 is good just for the overhead in case you get a 24" monitor or something before you get a new GPU.

Also, if you're willing to be a bit flexible with your budget, the Lexa S is better than the Gamma, and has 4 more fans + a fan speed controller for about $40 more. If that's too much, the M59 for $10 more may be worth looking in to.
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