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Viceroy September 27, 2009 12:31 AM

No budget multimedia/gaming rig build.
 
This build's ultimate purpose is to be used for mainly for gaming and multimedia downloading/burning/ripping/playback. I have stated that this build has no budget restrictions. This is true, however that is not to say that I am willing to spend excess amounts of money for hugely diminished returns on bleeding-edge merchandise. I am satisfied with the product that is currently at a great value but is not underpowered. For instance, my GPU of choice is the Radeon 5850. It is less powerful than the 5870, but also much less expensive. It is also slightly more expensive than a 4890, or 2x4870 CF'd, but also a much more solid and versatile performer. The perfect balance of power-pricing for me is the Radeon 5850.

---Potential purchases---

RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)
$97 taxed/shipped
Low latency and low voltage make up for its low speed, which can be easily overclocked. I will consider purchasing a second set if 4gb seems insufficient.

GPU - Sapphire ATI Radeon HD5850
$265 taxed/shipped

ODD - HP Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA 24X Multiformat DVD Writer
$35 taxed/shipped
This one does everything but Blu-ray. If you can find me a better one or a cheaper one, chime in.

$397 total

---Recently completed purchases---

***New*** Case - XCLIO Windtunnel Fully Black Finish 1.0 mm SECC Chassis ATX Full Tower Computer Case
$98 taxed/shipped

PSU - ENERMAX ERV1050EWT Revolution85+ 1050W SLI/CrossFire Active PFC Modular 85 Plus Silver Certified Power Supply
$150 taxed/shipped

HDD - Western Digital 1 TB Caviar Green SATA Intellipower 32 MB Cache
$75 taxed/shipped

CPU - Intel Core i7 Processor i7-860 2.80GHz 8MB LGA1156 + Mobo - GIGABYTE GA-P55M-UD2 Socket 1156/ Intel P55/ DDR3/ CrossFireX/ A&GbE
$335 taxed/shipped

VDU - Dell UltraSharp U2410 24 inch 1920x1200 6ms 1000:1 HDMI/DVI/VGA/DisplayPort Widescreen LCD Monitor
$524 taxed/shipped
Really phat screen with badass features and picture. Demands high-power GPU so I can take advantage of its awesomeness.

Audio A - Altec Lansing BXR1121
$20.00 taxed/shipped
If you haven't heard these before then you are missing out. For the quality of sound I can't believe they only retail for about 25 dollars.

Moose - Razer Salmosa
$27.00 taxed/shipped

$1229 total

***New*** ---Optional purchases---

***New*** Mouse - My current mouse, the Razer Salmosa, is somewhat unsatisfactory to me. I bought it on the prerequisite that it would be ideal for fingertip gripping, when in fact the dynamics of the mouse seem more befitting a claw grip or even a palm, and this is just not what I wanted at all. If held with fingertips, the Salmosa buttons are too difficult to depress (due to being nearer to the butt end), the chassis shows marks very easily, and the mouse itself is just much too long to be effectively maneuvered like a fingertip mouse should be.

If you have any suggestions for mice that you think I would like, please let me know.

***New*** Keys - Logitech G11 Gaming Keyboard
$50 taxed/shipped
Keyboard needs to have backlighting, or whatever it is called where a light comes on beneath the keys so they can be seen easier in a dark room. The keys must have space between them and must have noticeable depression (so no laptop keys). It absolutely must NOT have all the noobish bling like a dumb little LCD screen or 50 programmable buttons I'll never use. If you have any suggestions for boards you think I would like, or if you think the G11 is perfect for me, let me know.

***New*** HDD - I already have a 1tb drive listed in my completed purchases, but I am considering several options that would involve different/additional HDDs.

One would be purchasing a 10k RPM drive, particularly the Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000HLFS 300GB 10000 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive. Newegg is running a combo deal right now where they are throwing in a power supply along with the VR, and giving you 2 bucks just to take it off their hands. I have no use for that PSU on my machine, so I figure I could sell it on Ebay for about $70, thus bringing the practical price of a 300 GB WD VR down to $150. Another option would be to take identical drives and run them in RAID, but this would practically necessitate that I sell my current drive and buy faster ones (I am going for speed here, after all). Yet another option would be the one included in the following quote:
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Another option is to buy a 32MB cache 1.0 or 1.5 TB drive ( $90 to $140 typically , Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 series in particular here ) and "short-stroke it" to only 300 ( or 700 ) GB, using the fastest part of the platters only ( restrict cylinders to only allow access to outer cylinders/tracks of the platters, so that the drive is forced to only r/w to the fastest parts of the platters ( the middle to outside of the platters, larger circumference of platter = higher data throughput there ), making inner portion of the platters inaccessible. Once you do this, the performance is on par with VelociRaptor ( even slightly better in certain benchmarks ) for about half the price of the VelociRaptor.
All of the options look tempting and viable to me. I thank you for any insight you can offer me in this matter.

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That's it for the potential purchases for now. Please give me any opinions you have-no change is too small. I've spent a lot of time on this build because I want it to be as perfect as it can be, so please spare no detail. I am all-ears.

Thanks a bunch :)

~Viceroy Trepanation

Bucklaz September 27, 2009 01:23 AM

Your ram does seem quite expensive

Also, your comments are hilarious lol

hossdaddy September 27, 2009 07:10 AM

that gpu will hurt you at that resolution. You should be looking at the new 5850 or 5870, even a 4890 would be worth while spend over the 4870.
Peruse the review here, it outperforms the 4870 by 40-60% in almost every game. But @ $400 maybe its not the best price/performance ratio. The 4870 x2's are cheaper right now and trade blows with the 5870.

Kilauea September 27, 2009 08:36 AM

First of all, you seem to be lacking an aftermarket heatsink. Look at the Coolermaster Hyper 212.

You RAM is indeed quite expensive and the possible added benefits are much lower than your justifications for the CPU. I would suggest going for those G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3-1600 2x2gb.

I do not agree that 2 4870 beat a single 5870. The power consumption, the heat are likely to be fairly bigger with the 2 4870 compared to the 5870. Also, Crossfire is better in some cases, but not all of them. Finally, with the 5870, the minimum FPS is higher where it really counts(see the review at HWC for titles like Crysis, Dawn of War). In most of the other titles, its true that the X2 4870 wins, but to me its meaningless wins. 81 FPS vs 70(those are made up numbers) isn't all that important, but 22 vs 10, 18 vs 6, that is totally changing the game. 22FPS or 18FPS is pretty crappy (its what the 5870 gets), but 10 or 6 is A LOT worst(what the x2 4870 gets).

I would also suggest getting a WD caviar Black HDD. For reliability, speed, warranty.

A case is really a personnal choice. Lian-Li cases are great(or so I hear, never owned one), but the one you want to get seems to be fairly old. It is limited to 80mm fans which are likely to be a fair bit noisier than 120mm fans if you plan to overclock or even if you don't. Here a few suggestions for fairly clean looking cases.
Antec P183
Antec P180 mini (would need to change your mobo)
Lancool PC-K62
Lian-Li PC-9
I also like the look of these, but not really sure how good they are:
NZXT Hush Quiet
NZXT Whisper Silent

Well that's it for now... It gives you a few things to look at.

martin_metal_88 September 27, 2009 09:11 AM

Get a 4890 or a 260/275 and down the mobo to UD5 or UD4p, they have all you need on the board and they are like...for the UD4P about 60$ cheapper.

Ask for more.

steers September 27, 2009 09:20 AM

I would also consider an Asus P7P55D (Pro, Vanilla, LE), or one of the new EVGA P55 models for the motherboard. Gigabyte is a good manufacturer from what I hear, but personally I've had nothing but good luck from Asus and EVGA motherboard-wise. I take it you're American, so be sure to cross-reference prices with NCIXUS.com :thumb:

rjbarker September 27, 2009 10:13 AM

the title of your thread is decieving...I equate "No Budget" Gaming build with I7 920 + X58 Chipset - approx. 1.6K - 2K for total System Build high end

Anyhow, if your set on the P55 Chipset I like the looks / Review of the Evga Board...
1920 x 1200 Res Monitor your going to have to beef up your choice of GPU / GPU's if you really want great "no holds barred" gaming...
Also, consider a minimum 750W PSU to ready yourself for xFire or SLI
As was mentioned, decent HSF for OC'ing..

Viceroy September 28, 2009 02:42 AM

Thank you all for your suggestions. I just gave the OP an update. I'll be back to respond tomorrow evening.

Silvgearx September 28, 2009 05:06 PM

What..........

Wheres the 5870.............................

Viceroy September 28, 2009 11:36 PM

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the title of your thread is decieving...I equate "No Budget" Gaming build with I7 920 + X58 Chipset - approx. 1.6K - 2K for total System Build high end
The currently planned amount to spend is right at 1.7k, and at the time if your posting that message it was 1.9k. Besides, I already sufficiently justified the "no budget" clause in the OP.

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A case is really a personnal choice. Lian-Li cases are great(or so I hear, never owned one), but the one you want to get seems to be fairly old. It is limited to 80mm fans which are likely to be a fair bit noisier than 120mm fans if you plan to overclock or even if you don't.
Hmm, maybe I will go back to my previous idea of the Antec 900. What do you think?


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