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Old August 6, 2009, 10:35 PM
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Hey guys,

I read tons of reviews from here, and recently decided to join up to talk with fellow canucks about computers! That's a good combination. But anyways, I would really appreciate some input on this new build I'm putting together.

It's going to be mostly for gaming, but will also be my everyday computer, so movies, homework, internet, that sort of thing. I didn't want my budget to exceed $1500 with taxes, but I may go a bit over if I can get better performance and longevity.

I put this build together to function very much as something that wouldn't hurt my pocket if I upgraded in about a year. I'm going to upgrade to one of the new DX11 cards come December/January, and may also upgrade the motherboard depending on how the new 800 chipset works, and how good PCI-E 3 and USB 3.0 are. So, without further ado, here we go:



Gigabyte GV-R485ZL-512H HD 4850 512mb GDDR3 - $110.77
AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition - $165.77
Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P- $84.77
OCZ DDR3 PC3-12800 Special Ops 4G- $92.77 (OCZ3SOU16004GK)
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB - $59.77
Samsung SH-S223Q - $33.77
Corsair 650TX - $107.77
Cooler Master Storm Scout- $118.77
OCZ Freeze Thermal Paste - $6.77
Scythe Mugen 2 - $36.77

Asus VH226H - $187.77
Windows Vista Home Premium (w/ upgrade to W7) - $150.77
Logitech G11 - $59.77
OCZ Behemoth - $29.77


Subtotal - $1266.04
Total - $1430.63 w/taxes



I intend on overclocking the CPU to about 3.5 or 3.6 Ghz, and will also try unlocking the extra core. I'm uncertain whether to build it myself. I want to, but I'm a bit worried that I may damage a component. I can either build it myself or pay the store to do it. Not sure how much that costs though.


No plans to do crossfire, I intend on getting the 5850 x2 or 5870 x2, so no need for two physical cards. I'm quite happy with the price point right now, and I think this build will do well.
What do you guys think of it for my first build?




Iphikratous


BTW, Vista comes with a Windows 7 upgrade offer. Do I get a free license of w7 or is just paying the difference between the cost of vista and the release price of windows 7? Thanks.
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Old August 7, 2009, 01:01 AM
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A very solid rig you have there, but I've got a couple suggestions you might want to consider. I'd recommend Seagate's 7200.12 500GB drive as it is single platter so it is faster, cooler, quieter and best of all, its on sale for $54 at NCIX right now! For the heatsink I'd recommend getting an OCZ Vendetta 2, Cooler Master Hyper 212+ or Xigmatek HDT-S1283 as they will all perform better for around the same cost as the Mugen 2. Personally that mouse doesn't look too comfortable. I love my DeathAdder, and if you are a low sensitivity gamer I strongly recommend you take a look at it. How the licensing works is you get a copy of Vista Home Premium, and then when Windows 7 is released you get the Windows 7 Home Upgrade so you can upgrade your Vista installation to Windows 7. The problem with this is, every time you want to reinstall you must first install Vista and then upgrade to Windows 7. I'd just use the Windows 7 RC (it is free and works until March 2010), and buy a regular retail Windows 7 license for when it is released.

Building your rig yourself is a really rewarding experience. It is very intimidating at first, but it is actually surprisingly easy once you have compatible parts all picked out (and guess what, you already do!) And any questions you have will be happily answered here!

And lastly, welcome to Hardware Canucks!
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id wait for the new 965 to drop supposed to be reasonably priced and for 3.4ghtz quad it should overclock like the bandits!
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id wait for the new 965 to drop supposed to be reasonably priced and for 3.4ghtz quad it should overclock like the bandits!
its basically a 920 safely rated at 3.4, i mean anything above the 920 is just a clocked and burned 920... best bet you buy a 920, and you use a simple guide to push it to 4.0 stable on air.
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Buil is pretty good, but Iff you want to stick with this board change the RAM, little board like these have boot issue with OCZ agressive ram, OCZ factory change the sub-timing wich make the ram get a litle more voltage from advertise and many board just can't boot it. Go with G.skill, mushkin or Corsair, it's better ram at all and will not have this issue. Also if you want togo for a better GPU and board soon, why not to get a CPU wich will follow thereway:) get a 920 or a 940, little higher in price but a great difference in performance. Ho I jut noticed, get AS5 or MX2 for thermal paste ocz one is not quite extiting.

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That's some good feedback.

When you guys talk about the 920, I assume you mean the Phenom II 920 as opposed to the i7 920. If I went with the 920 I'd have to change the motherboard and get different memory. Whereas with the 720 I can unlock the processor (if it's stable), and end up with an underclocked 955. Then I proceed with overclocking until I get about 3.4-3.6Ghz. Even if it's unstable from everything I read the 720 clocked at 3.6Ghz is powerful. It'll be a step up from the Core 2 Duo T5450 I'm running in this laptop and the AMD Athlon XP 2500+ that's in the other computer.

About the windows license, I probably will just install windows 7 on the computer, then wait for retail. It will be released at regular retail value ($199.99) as opposed to the $150 for Vista now? But if I nix the operating system now, that's another $150 worth of hardware I can buy! Maybe I'll do that ;) If I do save $150 from going with the Windows 7 RC for now, what are some good hardware upgrades I could do?

Another question: (I'm not buying from NCIX, it's a local store that gave me better prices) It's offering the Asus Xonar DX 7.1 PCI-E or PCI card with a $25 MIR, so for a total of $63.77. Are these good sound cards? For now I'll be using a pair of Sony over-the-ear headphones that I like very much, good deep bass and such. I was thinking about getting the Creative Fatal1ty headset as well a pair of 2.1 speakers from logitech. Now from what I read modern motherboards do come with pretty decent sound, so should I upgrade to the Xonar DX or use onboard? There's also a Siig IC-510012 5.1 card for $27.77 if I want clearer sound without a hefty price tag.


Thanks for the feedback guys,
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The Xonar DX is well worth the money. And if you go with the Windows 7 RC for now, you could easily step up to a 4870 or 4890. Also, look at the WD Caviar Black hard drives, very fast and worth the extra 10-15$ over the blue models.

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If you are using sony headphone a xonar or the onboard sound would not make a true difference. It will only allow your cpu to get like 6% of the sound card use for other thing. At your place, I get the 150$ for a upgrade, get the Coolermaster 212+ becase you are going on AMD build you can mount it in manydirection instead of the ofther cooler so it's pretty cool. Also concider to get a WD 640 black like 10$ more but way faster or a WD 1tb black. I'll stick with my idea of changing the memory for something better. You can also get a little upgradeon the PSU getting like a 750 or a 850 wich will give you 1 or 2 year more of use in futurebuild, because these PSU ( corsair ) are never going to die:P ).

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The purpose behind a sound card is not to reduce CPU overhead, but to increase the quality of sound output. If the quality is important to you, it's worth the money. That's a good deal on that Xonar, I paid $89 for mine.
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