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Old July 29, 2009, 01:38 AM
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So this build is going to be for my dad. He generally uses his computer to surf the web and play games with the occasional movie.

My budget is under $1000.

I live in the US and would like to try and get most, if not all, my parts from newegg.com to save on shipping.

I don't really plan on overclocking it for him. I will if he thinks it's a bit slow but it's going to be such an improvement from his current machine he won't be able to tell.

So I would like to put it in the NZXT Rogue case as there is a sale on newegg for it for 69.99. So obviously a mATX board.

Let the suggestions fly! I'll be away for a couple days so I won't be replying right away. I know this is early for christmas but I may give it to him early because I don't think his current pc is gonna hold out much longer.
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Old July 29, 2009, 02:19 AM
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So this build is going to be for my dad. He generally uses his computer to surf the web and play games with the occasional movie.

My budget is under $1000.

I live in the US and would like to try and get most, if not all, my parts from newegg.com to save on shipping.

I don't really plan on overclocking it for him. I will if he thinks it's a bit slow but it's going to be such an improvement from his current machine he won't be able to tell.

So I would like to put it in the NZXT Rogue case as there is a sale on newegg for it for 69.99. So obviously a mATX board.

Let the suggestions fly! I'll be away for a couple days so I won't be replying right away. I know this is early for christmas but I may give it to him early because I don't think his current pc is gonna hold out much longer.
You need to tell us what all you need?

OS,KB,Mouse,Speakers,Monitor?? everything. Also, what kind of games does he play?
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Old July 29, 2009, 02:27 AM
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Alright good thing I'm up late eh?

But yeah almost everything. He needs a new mouse, a new monitor (he's still using a CRT) and I'm gonna give him Vista. His keyboard and speakers are still ok. He likes to play games like Call of Duty 4 and he would play Fallout 2 if his system could handle. He has the game, but he can't play it. Poor guy...

So I was thinking maybe a 19"-21" widescreen monitor and a cheap optical or laser mouse. Doesn't need fancy buttons.
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Old July 29, 2009, 07:07 AM
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for monitors, keyboards, mouse: go to ur nearest Bestbuy and test them out. We all have our own personal preferences.

I would go w/ AMD.

Gigabyte 780G mobos or w8 till the new ones come out in August
AMD Athlon II X2 250
Any cheap DDR2 ram or w8 for DDR3 for the mobo
XFX 4850
Win 7 RC (FREE)
Western Digital 640GB Black
CPU Heatsink (i'm not sure on this one): NCIX.com - Buy Scythe Big Shuriken Low Height CPU Cooler Heatpipe Heatsink LGA1366 LGA775 AM2 AM3 W/ 120MM Slim Fan - SCBSK-1000 In Canada.
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Old July 29, 2009, 08:46 AM
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I'd definitely go the Windows 7 RC (for now, and go with W7) once it's released in October.

What kind of gaming will he be doing? Are we talking about a serious gamer or just a casual one?
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Old July 29, 2009, 09:03 AM
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Yes since you need to buy everything, I would go AMD. Check out this ars guide for some direction.

http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2009/07/gaming-guide.ars
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Old July 29, 2009, 02:20 PM
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I think you should consider going the Win7 route since it'll be out before Christmas or if you decide to build it early, use the RC. You should also get him to try out various keyboards and mice at stores in order for him to choose what he's comfortable with. I'm with jcmaz on the AMD route although I'd suggest the X3 710 instead of the 250 if your budget allows. As for video cards, if the price difference isn't much, the 4870 or gtx 260 would be a better choice.
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Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X3 710 2.6GHz
Triple-core, better for multitasking/encoding. Could go with the Athlon II X2 250 though if budget is tight.

Newegg.com - ASUS M3A78-EM 780G Micro ATX Motherboard
My other choice is the Gigabyte board but it's not in stock ATM

Newegg.com - OCZ Blade Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800
Good quality RAM for not much more than value class stuff.

Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 4770 512MB
Went with the HD4770 over the HD4850 since it's a smaller card so fitting it in the case won't be as difficult. It also runs far cooler due to its 40nm manufacturing.

Newegg.com - Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB
Quick single platter drive. Could bump it up to a Western Digital 640GB if he needs more space.

Newegg.com - SAMSUNG Black 22X SATA DVD Burner
Just a cheap DVD-RW, nothing special.

Newegg.com - OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W
Modular PSU is a must with a mATX cube case IMO. It's rather cheap too, but OCZ makes fairly decent quality PSUs.

Newegg.com - NZXT ROGUE

Newegg.com - Logitech MX 3200 Wireless Desktop
Seems like a decent combo, not overly expensive either. Might as well replace them all so it feels totally new.

Newegg.com - Acer X223Wbd Black 22" Widescreen LCD
Cheap 22" LCD. Unless you're dad does graphics work, it should be fine.

Total: $788.91 before tax/shipping. Hopefully I got everything.
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With $1000 U.S at newegg.com the 940BE and a gtx275 is definatly in the budget along with the rest of your parts within reason.
Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases

Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - Internal Hard Drives

Newegg.com - LG W2243T-PF Black 21.5" 5ms GTG Full HD 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 30000:1 w/ HDCP Support - LCD Monitors

Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Power Supplies


Newegg.com - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK - Desktop Memory

Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, Digital Cameras and more!
$724.93 without even trying.The case and hdd aren't the best price but they have free shipping , those wd640GB 32MB should havfe a lower price. The cpu mobo combo seems to be a good deal.
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Old July 30, 2009, 02:52 AM
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Thanks guys for all the advice. I'm leanin towards jdrom17 on this one. I like that build and it's over 200 bucks cheaper for it all. Hell I may upgrade the GPU on that though. Maybe a 4870 as that won't be too much more and add a case fan if that gets to be a bit too much heat.

Also, should I invest in a cpu cooler? Probably won't be necessary as I don't plan to OC it very much, if at all. But other than that, that looks to be a pretty decent build.

To upcoast604, not to totally throw out your suggestions, I will probably use your choice of RAM as it has a higher speed and is the same price as the modules jdrom suggested. And the reason I chose to use the Rogue case is because my dad had mentioned that he liked that case a few weeks ago. So I decided to build his computer in that.

Thanks guys!
So here's the final list for all who are following:

NZXT Rogue
AMD Phenom II X3 710 2.6GHz
ASUS M3A78-EM 780G mATX Motherboard
Either:
Sapphire HD 4770
OR
Sapphire HD 4870
(depends on how generous I feel when I finally order parts )
G.Skill 4GB(2X 2GB) DDR2 1066 memory
SAMSUNG Black 22X SATA DVD Burner
Seagate Barracuda 7,200 500GB
OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W PSU
Acer X223Wbd 22" widescreen LCD monitor
Windows 7 RC
Logitech MX 3200 Wireless set (thanks for the find on that jdrom)

TOTALS:
with 4870 = $821
with 4770 = $791

So I'll probably give him the 4870 and if temps get too high I'll add in another case fan.

Thanks again guys!
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