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Old July 15, 2009, 08:29 PM
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Hi guys, my first post over here at hardware canucks. I've read this website on and off for a few years, so take it easy on me!

I'm a student who just quit his summer job (terrible boss/vacations coming) so I'm a bit strapped for cash to build a gaming rig.

My budget is 800-1100. I am building a gaming rig for 1920x1080 resolution gaming with low AA. I also want to overclock a little bit but I am far from enthusiast level OC'ing.

Here's the list

Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 190$
Praying for a nice price drop in end July

After-market cooler - Artic Cooler 7 pro 22$
This is the one I bought for my last PC. I'm looking for a nice price/quality cooler under 40.

Motherboard -
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P 133$
Gives good OC'ing for it's price, and has 2 PCI-E 16x. Which brings me to my next part.

Video card(s) - ATI Radeon HD4770 (crossfire later on) 120$
I read http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...fire,2288.html
and I thought to myself, now is a good time to try Crossfire/SLI. I will be buying one 4770 and the other later on, when they get cheaper :) Yes, I can wait!

Memory
- G. Skill 2x2GB PC2-8500 5-5-5-15 70$
Memory is a toss-up to me. With this low budget (60-70$), I can't expect to get performance memory. I just want one that runs cool and well.

Hard drive - Western Digital Caviar Green 1 TB Any 1 TB HDD 60$
Not incredibly specific, but once again I am not buying some high performance WD raptors.

Optical drive
- Samsung SH-S223Q 22X DVD +- RW SATA DVD with Lightscribe 30$
Any is good as long as I can burn some backup DVDs with it. I have a PS3 to play my blu-rays.

Audio - On board 0$

Case - NXZT beta 60$
I originally wanted an Antec three hundred, but Hardware Canuck's review turned the tides for me. I just like the way the beta was designed.

Power supply - Corsair TX750 110$
Running Crossfire is unknown territory for me so I don't know the PSU that would run good for me.

Display - BENQ e2200HD 190$
To be honest I don't know much about displays. My current is a Sony that got terrible reviews, but I am fine with it :)

Total: 985$ (1 105$ if I buy the 2nd HD4770 right away)

I think it's solid performance for price. I am not too sure which memory to buy and which video card to pack. The crossfire was mainly for fun so I can mess around a bit with em. Running single card would give me the advantage of buying a lower voltage PSU and spending that money on a better video card. Also, I was wondering what after-market cooler would be good for the e8400 without breaking the bank.

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Old July 15, 2009, 08:41 PM
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Considering the size of that screen crossfire isn't really needed and you can save money on a single GPU setup.
Secondly with that build you could save a bit more money and get a 620HX corsair instead.

G.Skill believe it or not while budget memory is some of the better memory in its price range.

I'd prefer the CM690 over any NXZT case as I've never been a huge fan of NXZT ever.

But other than that looks good.
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Old July 15, 2009, 08:41 PM
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Considering the size of that screen crossfire isn't really needed and you can save money on a single GPU setup.
Secondly with that build you could save a bit more money and get a 620HX corsair instead.

G.Skill believe it or not while budget memory is some of the better memory in its price range.

I'd prefer the CM690 over any NXZT case as I've never been a huge fan of NXZT ever.

But other than that looks good.
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Old July 15, 2009, 09:27 PM
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A TX650 would easily handle dual 4770s but I agree with ena on this you really dont need dual 4770s, honestly I would spend the extra $30 and get a 4870 instead, itll cost less per fps then the dual cards. If you watch sales you can find that the 4870s will drop bellow the $160 mark. Also go with a 640gb western digital black, for the money its the best hard drive you can find, the 1tb green is going to be the slowest hard drive you can use as a main os hard drive, its meant to be used as a low power large storage drive in a raid.

To be perfectly honest id say drop the TX750 for a 550, or a TX650 if you want crossfire, then grab a 4870 with the cash you save. G.Skill is a great choice for memory like ena said so stick with it. You could also look at building a new AMD phenom II platform, since you arent looking at SLI the AMD side of things is actually looking pretty decent. Grab a good 790GX motherboard for between $100-$145 and an x3 720 BE for as cheap as you can get it. Or buy an AMD bundle that always seem to pop up on lots of sites. Newegg.ca also has the x4 945 on sale with motherboards for dirt cheap. The E8400 is a great CPU dont get me wrong, I own one and love it, but if it wasnt for wanting to run SLI I would be running an x3 720 BE right now, the extra core would be nice for video encoding and even rar extraction. The BE edition AMD processors are also stupidly easy to overclock and overclock well, the x3 720s seem to have no issues at all with getting to 3.8ghz on most any 790GX motherboard. Id also sudgest if you really want to do any overclocking you drop the arctic cooling HSF and spend an extra $10 and get a xigmatek HDT-1283 or an OCZ Vendetta 2, both will easily out perform the AF7P.

As for monitors, I normally stay away from Benq ive had to many issues with them in the past, you should take a look at the Acer 23" monitors or the samsung/LG ones as well, also the LG/Samsung 22" monitors go on sale quite often for under $200.
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Old July 15, 2009, 09:50 PM
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I'd change a few things. First where are you purchasing from? We recommend NCIX because it's cheap, usually free shipping, great deals, and power to price match the competition. I also won't go the crossfire route as it's not really worth it, and the time spent on getting it to run properly could be a pain. There used to be lots of issues with dual GPUs, but now it's virtually problem free, but still, some games don't scale well with 2 or more GPUs.

CPU: NCIX.com - Buy AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition Triple Core Processor AM3 2.8GHZ 7.5MB Cache 95W 45NM Retail Box - HDZ720WFGIBOX In Canada.

GPU: NCIX.com - Buy EVGA E-GEFORCE GTX 260 Core 216 SC 55NM 626MHZ 896MB 2.1GHZ DDR3 PCI-E 2XDVI-I HDTV Out Video Card - 896-P3-1257-AR In Canada.

RAM: NCIX.com - Buy Patriot Viper Extreme Performance 4GB DDR2 2X2GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 CL 4-4-4-12 Memory Kit - PVS24G6400LLK In Canada.

Hard drive: NCIX.com - Buy Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB 7200RPM 32MB Dual Proc 3.5IN SATA Hard Drive OEM 5YR Mfg Warranty - WD6401AALS In Canada.

Mobo: NCIX.com - Buy Gigabyte MA790X-UD4P ATX AM3 AMD790X DDR2 CrossFireX 2PCI-E 2PCI SATA2 Sound GBLAN Motherboard - GA-MA790X-UD4P In Canada.

Cooling: NCIX.com - Buy Xigmatek HDT-S1283 Direct Touch 3 Heatpipe Heatsink AM2 LGA775 S754 S939 S940 W 120MM PWM Fan - HDT-S1283 In Canada.

PSU: NCIX.com - Buy Corsair TX750W 750W ATX 12V 60A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 140MM Fan - CMPSU-750TX In Canada.

Everything else is up to you. Your build isn't bad, but I just can't justify spending $900 on a dual core setup when I can get a tri core or even quad core for around the same amount of money.
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yep, for the money a gtx 260 is great for its value. am using one and can handle anything at 1680x1050.
what Geokilla wrote up sounds good, but i'd go intel just cuz im a fanboy :P
(though, for price/performance AMD is great nonetheless)
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Old July 16, 2009, 12:19 AM
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Yeah I agree +1 for geo, good solid build for a decent price, and having run a GTX 260 single and in SLI I can honestly agree with chouchou their great performers and can handle any game maxed other then crysis at your res.
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I agree with GEO and RS.

The E8400's time has come and gone in all reality.
As much as it pains me to admit it lol!

For what you are spending, I agree on dropping the CF Config and going 4870 or GTX 260 instead. The PSU can be downsized a bit as well, as previously stated.
I like the NZXT Case, but Grab yourself a few extra 120mm Fans to improve its cooling, as it only comes with one.

For CPU/MB Combo, I'd go AMD Phenom II X4 810 with a Gigabyte board (MA-790X with DDR2 support) and that will give you a lot more for what you spend.
I think you can PM the 810 at NCIX to 198 and grab the board for 125.

That gives you 4 Logical Cores and a lot more expansion room with an AM3 board.

My thoughts at least ,

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I agree with GEO and RS.

The E8400's time has come and gone in all reality.
As much as it pains me to admit it lol!

For what you are spending, I agree on dropping the CF Config and going 4870 or GTX 260 instead. The PSU can be downsized a bit as well, as previously stated.
I like the NZXT Case, but Grab yourself a few extra 120mm Fans to improve its cooling, as it only comes with one.

For CPU/MB Combo, I'd go AMD Phenom II X4 810 with a Gigabyte board (MA-790X with DDR2 support) and that will give you a lot more for what you spend.
I think you can PM the 810 at NCIX to 198 and grab the board for 125.

That gives you 4 Logical Cores and a lot more expansion room with an AM3 board.

My thoughts at least ,

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The 8400 is still a very good chip for gaming so no its not time for it to die yet.
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The 8400 is still a very good chip for gaming so no its not time for it to die yet.
True but LGA775 is done.
Going for an Older board and older chip isn't the best choice IMO.
At least with AM3, when AM3+ cycles in you will still be able to just drop it in and play.

I was thinking forward for him Enaberif, I know the E8400 Is still good.

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