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Old July 5, 2009, 04:40 PM
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Alright, just looking for some advice on a build I'm doing for my brother. I need to try and keep the price as low as possible, but the build has to perform well in games with little to no ongoing maintnence, etc. I live in BC; everything will be ordered from NCIX.com. The build will be used for gaming and casual use.

-CPU And Mobo-
Option 1: Gigabyte 790X AM3 + Phenom II 720
$265, $10 MIR at NCIX.com

Option 2: Gigabyte 770 AM2+, PM'd to $82 (DirectCanada.ca)
Athlon II 250, PM'd to $105 (newegg.ca)

Commentary: It stretches the budget, but I think I'll have to go for the first option, the third core will come in handy, and the 790X will increase the overall upgradability of the system.


-RAM-
Option 1: 4GB Mushkin HP3 DDR3-1600 8-8-8-12, $90 (NCIX.com)

Option 2: 4GB OCZ Platinum DDR2-1066 RV2, PM'd to $64 (Memory House)
Commentary: Depends on CPU/Mobo choice


-Case-
Option 1: Antec 300, $59(NCIX.com)

Option 2: Cooler Master RC-690
Commentary: I will be using this case, and leaving my bro with my NCIX.com house brand case. I have not used either, but the case must be descrite, quite, and keep parts cool.


-PSU-
Option 1: Antec Earthwatts 650W, PM'd to $85 (BestDirect.ca)

Option 2: PCPaC 750W, PM'd to $110 (Newegg.ca)
Commentary: Leaning towards the Antec.


-HDD-
Option 1: WDCB 640GB, $78, NCIX.com

Option 2: WDCB 1TB, $100, provides free shipping for entire order (~$30 off), NCIX.com (limited quatities)

Heatsink: Xig S1283 $35, $10 MIR

-Video Card-
Option 1: ASUS HD4870 1GB, $175, NCIX.com

Option 2: BFG GTX 260 Core 216, $195, $20 MIR, NCIX.com

Option 3 XFX HD4850 .5 or 1GB, $135 or $155, NCIX.com

The remainder of the budget will be spent on the video card. The system will be run at 1680X1050.

The system will not be used to play Crysis, largely FPSs and RPGs, but must offer good performance for maximum longevity. A mild overclock will be applied. The videocard will have a custom heatsynch attached, which came along with an 8800GT I purchased secondhand. Thank you for your help in advance.
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Old July 5, 2009, 05:10 PM
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I would probably go th X3 route although it's a bit of a shame to not be able to capitalize on the overclocking potential of that CPU by pairing it with a budget board, but it's at least 100 more for and OCing board so that's life. I like all of your choices- I would go choose the cm690 myself, and the BFG 260 C216 was on sale recenty at NCIX for 159 after MIR so it might go on again for that price and it is a great performer. The 640B hds are apparently reliable and fast..I would also go for the PCPaC PSU although I haven't read any tests on those two PSUs.
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Don't get the Antec 300, check out the NZXT Beta

NZXT Beta Mid Tower Case Video Review

and get the 4870, you won't need the 1GB for that resolution but more is better
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Old July 5, 2009, 06:56 PM
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try getting a cheap 4890 1gb instead of a 4870 1gb, the cost is so similar but the performance difference is well worht it.

otherwise I agree with the 2nd poster that the x3 would be the best bang/buck.
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Old July 5, 2009, 10:19 PM
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Following all of your recommendations leaves me at $670, or nearly all out of budget. Would it be worth putting in the quad-core and PCPaC and being stuck with an HD4850?
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Old July 5, 2009, 10:33 PM
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I would recommend checking the Buy/Sell/Trade forums. I found excellent deals on CPU, Ram, Video Card, and a case. Just make sure you check out references though, so you know you are buying from a respectable person.
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I found the gtx 260 cheaper if you are still considering it. Pretty good price at $178.88 with $20 mir. Or you could wait until wednesday when ncix sale goes up.

Bfg Geforce Gtx 260 Oc MAXCORE55 590MHZ 896MB 1.998GHZ GDDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I Video Card - DirectCanada

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Old July 5, 2009, 11:36 PM
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I just put together a couple of afordable E5200 systems...one of them in a M300 Antec case. I liked it! Clean design, lots of air flow, (if you buy another 120mm fan), excellent fit and ease of use to the side and front panels, and jacks and power buttons are on the front near the top, and room behind the mobo.
I have my system in a CM 690, and do like the case a lot, except for the side panels can be a pain, (depending on where you have your case), and even though the e-sata, usb and jacks are on the top, the power /reset buttons are down low on the right hand side.
Even at that I'd go for the 690 if it was for myself. Tons of air flow. Between top, back, and front 120mm fans, and two Noctua 120's in push/pull on the heat sink, it runs cool. If you do though make sure you have decent cable length with whichever PSU you pick. Not really a factor with the M300, but it is with the 690. Corsair tx750w works great Good luck!
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Old July 7, 2009, 10:24 PM
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No more advice? Should I just go with teh e5200? Or an Athlon II? Wait for a Black Edition? I'm all ears.
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I say get an x3, seems to be the sweetspot and a gtx 260 at direct canada or ncix when their sale starts tmrw @ around 9pm 5est which was the canada day start time i think. Also, even a 500w power supply should be fine so a corsair 550vx should be good. babrbarossa is pretty much spot on. You should be able to oc a fair bit but not to extreme clocks.

OCZ (OCZ3G13334GK) DDR3 PC3-10666 1333MHz Gold Edition 4GB (2x2048MB) Dual Channel Kit $52 after 30 MIR Not the best but should be good enough. Use that money you save....well you can save it or go for a 4890/275. As for storage, i say 640gb black as the main and if you need more later, just grab the cheapest 1tb drive you can lay your hands on other than seagate 7200.11's. case is up to you, i'd think the 300 would be fine for your uses but if you really open up your comp that much and fiddle, go for the CM 690. Im only not recommending the beta cuz it looks kind of fugly but thats up to you.

Not sure about sale prices but in short:
Gigabyte 790X AM3 + Phenom II 720
the above OCZ ddr3 ram if you really need to cheap out a bit
antec 300 since price, again, seems to be a concern
640gb black
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corsair 550vx psu which is/was on sale at ncix

if your still over budget and cant go for the 275/4890 grab a 4870 or gtx 260
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