AMD System Build, Confused in PSU and LCD!

[Sprengkopf]

Hi everyone, thanks for Soultribunal first building up my system. And I apologize from Soul because of I really distrubed Soul even once or twice more...

Here is the system we build with Soultribunal;

# Gigabyte / MA790X - UD3P AM2+ (129 $)
# HIS / HD4850 IceQ 4 Turbo 512MB (179 $)
# Corsair / CMPSU-650TX 650W (149 $)
# Corsair / 4 GB XMS2 800MHZ (69 $)
# AMD / Phenom II X2 AM3 550 Black Edition (132 $)
# Philips / 21.6" 220VW9FB (187 $)
# Western Digital / 3,5" 500GB 32MB SATA II 7200 Rpm Caviar Black (76 $)

TOTAL: 921 $ (Except case it will be TT V9 or Akasa Zen - it will change about my buying shop.)

But nowadays I have to cut some budget from my pocket of my economic status. Surely; the motherboard, the cpu, the hdd and the graphic card I didn't want to change them.

I looked into power supply section. Corsair 650TX is about 149$ but OCZ StealthXStream 600W is about 115$. Is there a big performance differences within these brands? (Corsair vs. OCZ)

Then I looked to my LCD. Philips 21.6 inch is about 187 $ but the price gives alert to me 19 inch monitors maybe good but I can't decide which one Philips or Samsung?

Thanks for your helps, please post a comment to me...

[DragonFlame]

I'm just wondering where you're getting those prices from I feel like for $180 a 4870 is easily within reach a 4850 should be had at like ~$130... A TX650 for $150? That's really odd too, that should be easily in the ~$90 range.

In terms of cutting price how much do you want to cut?

[Sprengkopf]

Originally Posted by DragonFlame

I'm just wondering where you're getting those prices from I feel like for $180 a 4870 is easily within reach a 4850 should be had at like ~$130... A TX650 for $150? That's really odd too, that should be easily in the ~$90 range.

In terms of cutting price how much do you want to cut?

I'm not in Canada or America, I'm in Europe so the prices is these. How much do I want to cut, that is a really big question. But I want to do really really big thinks.

It is 921 $ right now without case. I want to cut it about 870 - 900 $ with case. I cut off how much that is good for me.

You can consider about other things, but cpu I want it really. Maybe you can suggest me a new motherboard in same brand (Gigabyte). And maybe I graphic card like 4830... Do you understand me?

[rapmaster]

Do you plan to crossfire later? if not get the gigabyte 770-UD3 or 770T-UD3P if you want DDR3. Don't forget to get the revision with the SB710

[Sprengkopf]

Originally Posted by rapmaster

Do you plan to crossfire later? if not get the gigabyte 770-UD3 or 770T-UD3P if you want DDR3. Don't forget to get the revision with the SB710

I won't go Crossfire,Raid, Overclock. I need DDR2 motherboard becasue DDR3 Rams are too expensive. So I have to choice my motherboard perfeclty. And I want to use my computer in the future. (about 2-3 years.) So I need a motherboard which is look future too.. 770 Series or 790 Series what is the differences?

[sa seba]

Whereabout in europe are you? Seeing your user name I would guess Germany, in which case i would check out those stores:
Computer Shop - Hardware, Notebook & Software by Mindfactory.de
ALTERNATE. Hardware - Software - Entertainment

I used both in the past.

The 770 chipset has basically all that's necessary and some more, making it the price/performance champion for amd boards. 790 allows you to crossfire and that's about all there is to it.

[Soultribunal]

I have to agree, if in the end you need to shave some money the MB can be downgraded a bit. Just make sure on Gigabytes site it will support AM3.

The 770 Chipset is a budget one but still more than capable for your needs.
Although many people have had OCZ's, i've been seeing a lot of them go poof lately or a lot of new ones from RMA being Sold.
So, Avoid OCZ if you can for now. Perhaps the 550W from Corsair? Don't go to far down however because it will shorted the life of a PSU if you run it at or near max capacity.

Regards,
ST

[Sprengkopf]

Originally Posted by Soultribunal

I have to agree, if in the end you need to shave some money the MB can be downgraded a bit. Just make sure on Gigabytes site it will support AM3.

The 770 Chipset is a budget one but still more than capable for your needs.
Although many people have had OCZ's, i've been seeing a lot of them go poof lately or a lot of new ones from RMA being Sold.
So, Avoid OCZ if you can for now. Perhaps the 550W from Corsair? Don't go to far down however because it will shorted the life of a PSU if you run it at or near max capacity.

Regards,
ST

Soul, I have a great news! I found a shop which sell all parts most likely, NZXT Cases; OCZ and Corsair both ect. But I have problem right now in this shop Phenom II 550 not in stock. Please make a list to me or do the same thing again like old thread. Could you do it again please?

For motherboard what you suggest to me clearly??

[Soultribunal]

You do realize after this is said and done you owe me a beir.

DAB on tap preferably.

Okay let me know first, what you have decided on for your parts, and what you can't decide on.
And how much Money you have.

Regards,
ST

[Sprengkopf]

Originally Posted by Soultribunal

You do realize after this is said and done you owe me a beir.

DAB on tap preferably.

Okay let me know first, what you have decided on for your parts, and what you can't decide on.
And how much Money you have.

Regards,
ST

I didn't told you totaly 900 $. I don't want to exhaust you.
Let me explain something, there is two or three shop selling parts very well. I give them some name, the first shop is Number One, the second shop is Number Two. That is okay?

They have choice their selling parts for only their goods. Example, Number One has the most selling parts, Number Two has this most selling parts and extra the others. Number One sells the parts +20 $ (let think A part is 50 $ but they sell this part about 70 $.) Number Two has a little cheap prices.

We did a system with you clearly, right? And I choice the parts which are static for me;

# Corsair / 4 GB XMS2 800MHZ (69 $) - I have to buy this because of the cheapest RAM in there and they give us good performance and live warranty.
# Western Digital / 3,5" 500GB 32MB SATA II 7200 Rpm Caviar Black (76 $) - I have to buy this because of the most performance WD gives us.

Motherboards I listed them:

Shop Number One:

# Gigabyte / MA770 - UD3 (114 $)
# Gigabyte / MA790 - UD3P (152 $)

Shop Number Two:

# Gigabyte / MA770 - UD3 (110 $)
# Gigabyte / MA790 - UD3P (145 $)

Graphic Cards I listed them:

Shop Number One:

# Sapphire / HD4830 512MB (122 $)
# HIS / HD4830 512MB (124 $)
# Sapphire / HD4830 1GB (147 $)
# Asus / EAH4830 512MB (174 $)

# HIS / HD4770 512MB (141 $)
# Gigabyte / HD4770 512MB (145 $)
# Sapphire / HD4770 512MB (150 $)

# HIS / HD4850 512MB (145 $)
# Sapphire / HD4850 512MB (156 $)
# MSI / HD4850 512MB (162 $)
# HIS / HD4850 1GB (167 $)
# HIS / HD4850 IceQ Turbo 512MB (168 $)
# Sapphire / HD4850 1GB (169 $)

Shop Number Two:

# Sapphire / HD4830 512MB (117 $)
# Sapphire / HD4830 1GB (138 $)
# Powercolor / HD4830 512MB (124 $)

# Powercolor / EAH4770 512MB (127 $)

# Sapphire / HD4850 512MB (147 $)
# Sapphire / HD4850 Vapor 512MB (163 $)
# Sapphire / HD4850 1GB (165 $)

Power Supplies I listed them:

Shop Number One:

# Corsair / 650TX 650W (163 $)
# OCZ / 600SXS StealtXtreme 600W (125 $)

Shop Number Two:

# OCZ / 600SXS StealtXtreme 600W (117 $)

CPU I listed them:

These parts maybe confused me becuase of I want Phenom II 550 Black Edition (132 $). But only Shop Number One sells them. Shop Number Two sells Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition. Price is 164 $.

RAM I listed them:

Shop Number two didn't sell any Corsair RAM except Dominator series or just said they are bad at selling RAMs.

Shop Number One:

# Corsair / 4 GB XMS2 800Mhz (82 $)
# Corsair / 4 GB XMS2 1066Mhz (106 $)
# Corsair / 4 GB XMS3 1066Mhz (94 $)
# Corsair / 4 GB Dominator 1066Mhz with Airflow (142 $)

Shop Number Two:

# Corsair / 4 GB Dominator 1066Mhz with Airflow (141 $)

LCD I listed them:

Shop Number One:

# Samsung / 19" 943NW (160 $)
# Samsung / 19" 933NW (167 $)
# Samsung / 18.5" 933SN (163 $)
# Philips / 19" 190VW9FB (159 $)
# Philips / 19" 190CW9FB (175 $)
# Philips / 18.5" 191EW9FB (161 $)
# LG / 18.5" W1943SB-PF (150 $)
# LG / 19" W1934S-BN (155 $)
# LG / 19" W1954S-PF (160 $)
# Asus / 18.5" VH192D (150 $)
# Asus / 19" VW193D (152 $)
# Asus / 19" VW192DR (153 $)
# Asus / 19" VH196D (163 $)

Shop Number Two:


# Philips / 19" 190VW9FB (147 $)
# Philips / 19" 190CW9FB (161 $)
# LG / 18.5" W1943SB-PF (133 $)
# LG / 19" W1934S-BN (150 $)
# LG / 19" W1954S-PF (154 $)
# LG / 19" W1941S-PF (139 $)
# Samsung / 19" 933NW (163 $)
# Samsung / 19" 923NW (150 $)
# Samsung / 18.5" 933SN (155 $)
# Asus / 18.5" VH192D (1414 $)
# Asus / 19" VK193D (160 $)
# Asus / 19" VH196D (154 $)

EDIT: I forgot the chassis. Here they are. They are same as before. But Shop Number Two sells NZXT, Asus, Thermaltake, Cooler Master, Gigabyte, Aopen chassis. But the differences between the two shops only the NZXT and Asus chassis. Look to NZXT chasis if you want I can list Asus chassis too.

NZXT Chassis Listed:

# NZXT / 80-LX00E UUB Lexa Silver (171 $)
# NZXT / 80-NANLND-7RB Nemesis Black (178 $)
# NZXT / 8E-APNL2-URB Apollo Black (128 $)
# NZXT / 8E-HSNL2-FGB Hush Black (128 $)
# NZXT / 8E-LX002-UUB Lexa Blackline (164 $)


If you need something up please tell me I can list them to you... Thanks a lot.