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Old June 24, 2009, 12:08 PM
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Hey everyone. My first post here (though I have been reading for a while) and I need some help. Building an everyday computer that I hope will last a long time. Upgrading from an Athlon 1700+ (palomino for those that are familiar). So this should be a huge jump for me. I don't really game on my PC other than some occasional Day of Defeat source. I do some video converting and other than that its a general purpose machine. I will likely be buying everything from DC so I can get free shipping.

CPU - Phenom II X3 710 (already ordered for $114 with free shipping)

Rest of the build is open to suggestions while keeping budget in mind (keeping everything under $500):

Mem - Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X4096-6400C5 4GB DDR2 2X2GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 CL 5-5-5-18 240PIN Memory Kit

MB - Asus M3A78-EM Amd 780G Matx AM2+ PCI-E16 PCI-E1 2PCI Sata Hdmi Video Sound Gblan 1394 Motherboard

Case - Coolermaster Elite RC-330 ATX Blk Case 4X5.25 2X3.5 5X3.5INT No PS 1X120MM Rear Fan Front I/O Panel


PSU -
Corsair CMPSU-400CX 400CX 400W ATX 12V 30A Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan


HD -
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA2 3.5IN 8.5MS 7200RPM 16MB Hard Drive Oem *3YR Mfr Warranty*


For memory I want 4gb, and was also considering G.SKILL F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ PC2-8000 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-1000 CL5-5-5-15 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit
MB I am pretty sure the 780g is the way to go given my needs while having the ability to put in a video card later if I need it. I don't think the mATX is a problem for me given my needs. DO you see a problem with that board? Case is my conclusion to a decent flowing cheap case. PSU seems to be the best budget 80plus certified I can find. And HD I don't really know about. I know Seagate has had some problems with the .11 models, so I don't know. Was also thinking about
Hitachi Deskstar P7K500 500GB SATA2 7200RPM 16MB 3.5IN Hard Drive Oem 3YR Mfr Warranty

but wasn't sure what to go with. Needs to be between 250 and 500gb and be reliable and as quiet as possible.



I am open to suggestions for a DVD burner, since I really don't know which to go with.



Thanks in advance for your help.


P.S. Am I missing anything? Cables etc? Or does all that come with the components?

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Old June 24, 2009, 02:27 PM
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I would check out what is in NCIX's weekly sale tonight around 9:30 pm EST. and also use www.pricebat.ca and www.pricecanada.com to price match your components

I've only ever made a cheap matx build for an AMD cpu, but I'm sure someone will have a good suggestion on a mobo.

Your missing a Video Card though... might want to look into that...

Also if you plan to overclock the CPU you might want an aftermarket heatsink.

I'd suggest going with this memory
G.SKILL F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ PC2-8000 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-1000 CL5-5-5-15 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit

Also you might find a good deal on a different psu in the weekly ncix sale, so check for that, 400W might be a bit low if you decide to get a good gpu.
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Old June 24, 2009, 02:27 PM
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DVD burner, go with whatever. They'll all do the same job.

The 7200.12 500GB is a great drive and very fast. No firmware issues that I'm aware of.

For the case, might want to consider the Antec 300 as well as it has more cooling options than the one you listed.

I'd go with the G.SKILL RAM since it's faster, and if you ever get into OC'ing, you could lower those timings if you only run them at 800MHz.

Motherboard wise, I'd be inclined to go with this Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3 and then a separate video card such as ASUS Radeon 4650 600MHZ 512MB or if that's too much then ASUS Radeon HD 4550 600MHZ 512MB. It's just that the onboard graphics on the 780G motherboard are rather lacking and I don't think it would play DoD Source that well, though I don't know what settings you like to run the game at. However since you're old PC plays it, I guess your standards are rather low...

I guess the other choice, if the above is too costly, would be to get a 790GX board with Sideport memory. Something like this Gigabyte MA790GP-UD4H. Least you'd have the best onboard graphics possible.
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Old June 24, 2009, 03:29 PM
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DVD Burner- Pioneer FTW!
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Coolermaster Elite 310 Black W/ Blue Trim ATX Mid Tower Case 4X5.25 6X3.5INT 1X3.5EXT No PSU

I'll sell my 8500GT to you :)
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Old June 24, 2009, 04:42 PM
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I assume he's using the onboard video of the 780G. For the case, go withe NZXT Beta or Elite 310.

NCIX.com - Buy NZXT Beta ATX Tower Case 4X5.25 5X3.5INT No PS Front Audio USB eSATA Black - BETA In Canada.
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Old June 24, 2009, 05:15 PM
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Personally hard drive wise I go with either of these, im not a fan of seagate personally and I know both of these hard drives work well.

Western Digital Caviar SE16 640GB SATA2 7200RPM 16MB Hard Drive Oem 3YR Mfr Warranty - DirectCanada

Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB 7200RPM 32MB Dual Proc 3.5IN Sata Hard Drive Oem 5YR Mfg Warranty - DirectCanada

The black edition is a bit more but is very fast and personally I also think its rather quiet.

For ram deffinetly drop that XMS its over priced for the timings it comes with default when you can get DDR2 1000mhz ram that will run 800mhz at 4-4-4 timings for like $2 more.

motherboard wise theres also this,

Gigabyte GA-MA78GPM-UD2H AMD780G mATX AM2+/AM3 Sideport PCI-E SATA Sound GLAN HDMI Motherboard - DirectCanada

Its only $110, has 128mb of side port, runs the ATI 3200 integrated video, and pretty much suits your need. The only issue I have with it is if you get a huge dual slot video card youll lose most of your sata ports, this is an issue with most mATX motherboards though.

Mentioned earlier but $10 less the NCIX...

Gigabyte MA790GP-UD4H AMD790GX ATX AM2+/AM3 Sideport 2PCI-E Sound GBLAN HDMI CrossFireX Motherboard - DirectCanada

Great motherboard with angled sata ports so that a video card wont block them, also has the 3300 vs the 3200 series video processor in it which will like mentioned before give you the best integrated solution available to my knowledge. I wouldnt expect miricles from these video processors though, they are really only meant for watching HD movies and playing games like the sims.
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my Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 is much more silence the my WD Caviar SE16 and it's faster.
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I have a hard time seeing it as faster then a black though, and with the SE16 you gain an extra 140gb of space, personally I wouldnt call the WD blacks loud either, I never hear mine even during spin up. But to each his own, ive had way to many issues with seagate and will never go back to them.
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The black is faster, I'm talking about the SE16.
I recommend the Caviar Black 640GB or the Barracuda 7200.12
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hey I`m selling a couple of things (like dvd drives) you could use in your build and save a few bucks:
Cowboy's FS thread!

but yeah, I whole-heartedly support the amd+ asus m3a78-em board combo, really solid setup.
good going with the corsair 400w psu, it`ll serve you well for years to come.
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