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Old June 8, 2009, 04:52 PM
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Hi everyone, I'm going to be building my first system and I could really use some advice. I have a basic idea of what I want but am open to suggestions.

The system would be used for normal every day use and medium gaming, watching online vids, etc. Looking to spend around $1000 Can. trying to stay on the low side of that if possible but willing to go higher for the right build. I was looking at DirectCanada, does anyone have any experience with them or should I go with NCIX? On average I noticed that DirectCanada had lower prices.
I don't need an SLI or Crossfire setup so just 1 vid card is all I need. As far as CPU's go, I want to get the Intel Core 2 Duo E8400. Everything else I'm up for suggestions.
I'm a little hesitant about the heatsink? I have read that it can be tricky to install properly? Also Windows operating system... I don't really want to go with Vista but I want the 64 bit so.. Home Premium it is. My question about that is do I need the retail 32bit/64bit package or can I get the 64bit OEM? I read somewhere that all you need is the OEM but the package info says that you have to have Vista operating system installed. So what are they talking about? I don't know how to overclock and have no plans to at the moment but that doesn't mean I won't change my mind later and give it a whirl.

Ok down to buisness, these are the items I am looking at right now.

motherboardGigabyte EP45-UD3L ATX LGA775 P45 DDR2 PCI-E 2PCI SATA2 HD Sound GBLAN Motherboard - DirectCanada
dvdLg GH22NS30 Black DVD+RW 22X8X16 DVD-RW 22X6X16 Dl 16X/12X 2MB Sata Oem - DirectCanada
memoryOCZ Gold XTC PC2-6400 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-18 DDR2 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit - DirectCanada
case Antec Nine Hundred Mid Tower Gamer Case 900 Atx 9 Drive Bay No Ps Top USB2.0 1394 Audio - DirectCanada
harddrive Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA2 3.5IN 8.5MS 7200RPM 16MB Hard Drive Oem *3YR Mfr Warranty* - DirectCanada
powersupply Corsair TX650W 650W Atx 12V 52A 24PIN Atx Power Supply Active Pfc 120MM Fan - DirectCanada
videocard EVGA E-GEFORCE 9800GT Superclocked 55NM 650MHZ 512MB 1.9GHZ GDDR3 Dual DVI-I HDTV Out Video Card - DirectCanada

how am I looking so far?

edit: pcu Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Dual Core Processor LGA775 3.0GHZ Wolfdale 1333FSB 6MB Retail - DirectCanada

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Old June 8, 2009, 04:55 PM
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Old June 8, 2009, 05:05 PM
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Welcome to HWC amg! I think you'll be happy with your planned system. It's quite similar to mine which I built about 1 year ago now. I bought all my parts from DC but I also use NCIX (use the one with best prices and shipping).

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Old June 8, 2009, 06:20 PM
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Change the ram for mushkin or G.skill, almost the same price but way over in durability and performance( for 10$ more you can get 1066 G.skill wich I run 24-7 at 450 FSB and I know I can go further. Also go with WD caviar black 640Gb, 15$more, more storage and faster disk( one of the fastest HDD on the market ( 5 years warranty at all ).
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Old June 8, 2009, 06:25 PM
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I'd opt for something other than OCZ RAM, as Martian Said, G.Skill or Mushkin would be good. Corsair as well. I've seen some interesting compatibility issues with OCZ RAm.

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Otherwise looks pretty solid.
However, I can tell you that if you wanted to go the AMD route, you can get a nice Quad from AMD for the price of that Duo.

Infonec Computers - Computer parts Canada, PC Components, laptop computers, motherboards, processors, CPUs and much more : GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3 4DDR2 2PCI/3PCI-E X1/2PCI-EX16 SATA,RAID,1394,GBLAN ATX

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Old June 9, 2009, 04:19 AM
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Thanks so much for the suggestions so far

what about this for mem then? G.SKILL F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ PC2-8000 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-1000 CL5-5-5-15 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit - DirectCanada
and is this the HD you are talking about? Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB 7200RPM 32MB Dual Proc 3.5IN Sata Hard Drive Oem 5YR Mfg Warranty - DirectCanada

question about my case, do I really need that nine hundred? Would the three hundred be ok? or any other suggestions on that. Don't really need anything fancy but I didn't know what would be ok as far as a simple one went so I just chose the most common.
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Yeah that would be fine for Memory The G.Skill you have listed. Good Price too.
The HD is the right one too, with just a sliver less performance than the WD Raptor, the Black Drives are really good these days.


For your Case Selection, It all depends on what you want to spend and what you hope to get out of your Case.
If you don't care for too much Flash, Grab a NZXT Beta and strap a few 120mm to the side of it.

Cases are subjective as far as I'm concerned. Yes, some are better, some are worse, but in the end it is you who has to look at it day in day out.

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If you like the 900 go with a 902, MUCH better case, it actually has cable routing options which the 900 doesnt, but take a look at the coolermaster cases as well, they offer competative cooling at lower prices and come with more features. Also STs sudgestion works to, the betas are really nice cases as well. Personally im a big fan of the new haf 922, the CM 690, and the storm sniper/scout.

I also +1 to buying G.Skills or mushkins, both companies just let their price of ram stay at a low price and dont make their customers rely on MIRs to get lower prices, plus thier ram overclocks well and is of great quality. Youll like the E8400, its a great CPU with alot of horse power, but STs sudgestion of the Phenom II isnt far off either, if you do any kind of multitasking (video encoding, large file archiving ect.) then a quad would be nice, or even the x3 720 BE. But the E8400 overclocks like a champ on 98% of the motherboards on the market and runs cooler then the x3 at higher frequencies. Also look at upgrading that GPU to a GTS 250, it might cost you $20 extra to do it but youll gain quite a bit of performance, I found gaming on a GTS 250 (9800GTX+) was a very playable experience even in games like crysis.

NCIX.com - Buy XFX GeForce GTS 250 738MHZ 512MB 2.2GHZ DDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I HDTV Out Video Card - GS250XYDFC In Canada.

Thats about the lowest price I can find, and its XFX so its double life time warranty, if you watch the NCIX sales though they have had EVGA ones on for as low as $124 CND, which brings it VERY close to the price of the 9800GT.
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Coolermaster CM590. I was really surprised - I found it much better than the 690.
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Old June 9, 2009, 04:58 PM
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This info is exactly what I needed. I really don't know what the best brands are so this is a huge help.
I'll take a look at the coolermasters, I was thinking I wanted to go a bit simpler in cases but also wanted to make sure it will have enough fans. I noticed that some cases have bottom mounted psu and that some cords won't reach the motherboard. Does the psu I picked out have a long enough cord if I end up with a bottom mount?

Looks like if I make these changes I'll be spending more then 1k ah well.. have to spoil yourself sometime right?
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