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Old May 23, 2009, 01:13 PM
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Sorry for the double post, but I need some opinion as quickly as possible: I had originally post a new build for an AMD system and got a lot of great advice.
I have now convinced myself to spend $300 more to get an intel i7 system instead of AMD PII 720. For the $300, I get 6 GB ram instead of 4GB, a quad instead of x3. So, I need your advice fast since there is a good sale on at NCIX. Here is what I am considering:

edit: updated my picks with new prices.
Intel i7 920 D0 - I am going to get this locally to make sure it is D0. $334.
OCZ pc3-12800 DDR3 1600 MHz gold xtc 6GB - $99.99 less 20 rebate=79.99
Gagabyte EX58-UD3R $196.5 less $20 rebate = $177
WD Caviar Black 640GB $79.97
Corsair TX650W 114.99 less 36 rebate =78.99
Powercolor HD4850 $141 less $20 rebate=$121
OCZ Vendetta 2 with blacket $28 (with rebate)
CM690 89.

Total $988 before taxes and shipping.

I saw a review of the antec 300 and it performs on par with CM690, but not sure if the TRUE will fit?
Is the Powercolor HD4850 any good for some casual games? Is it better than the new ATI 4770?
Is the OCZ ddr3 1600 any good?
I am not much of a gamer, and will not cross fire, but certainly will oc to 3.8 GHz on air for photo editing and video editing, so I think PSU is ok?
I will reuse my dvdrom for now,( but eventually will get blueray), reuse my 24 inch Dell 2405, keyboards and mouse.
Thanks for any quick comments, I'll have to order soon, as NCIX is on sale.



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Old May 23, 2009, 01:25 PM
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The 4850 is a great card for casual gaming. it doesn't break the bank, and it performs really well. I'm running 1 4850 at the moment and on a 20" monitor I can play most games at high settings or even max settings and at my max resolution while still keeping playable frame rates (approx 30fps.). Now that being said, I just bought a 26" monitor and I run it at 1900x1200 resolution and 1 4850 just doesn't cut it for gaming unless I want to drop down to medium or low settings. So depending on what size monitor you have and what resolution you are running you should be ok. But if you plan on upgrading to a 24" monitor, then I would suggest either crossfiring 2 4850's or getting a higher performance card (ie nvidia 275 or an ati 4890)

the corsair powersupply is more than enough for your current setup. I can run crossfired 4850's, and an overclocked, watercooled Q6600 on my corsair 620HX.
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Old May 23, 2009, 02:52 PM
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To drop the price even more, switch to an OCZ Vendetta 2 or OCZ Gladiator MAX. Those will cool your Core i7 just as good, if not better thanks to its HDT technology.

The 4850 is a bit faster than the 4770. However, I believe the 4770 can overclock better.

Everything else looks good. You might want to switch to an Antec Sonata III to save a bit more.

P.S. Are you a folder? If you are, get a NVIDIA GPU instead. It'll fold quicker.
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Thanks for your responses.

@quikgp: sorry I was not clear. I already have the 24" Dell 2405 which has 1920x1200 resolution. I was going for the ATI 4770, but now 4850 is on sale to the price point of 4770. So, I will go for it, and as I said, I don't game much, so not too worried about it. Just wonder what PowerColor is like in terms of their product quality and customer service.

@geokilla: I like the idea of Vendetta 2. The reason I chose TRUE is that on another thread, a poster by the name of somecanadianguy has it and has great temperatures, although he is using CM690 case. In fact, I followed his built except for the ram and case. I'll give it some thought, since vendetta will lower my cost. As for the Sonata III, it has 500W psu, but its cost is pretty close to what I am considering (TX650 and Antec 300), so I'll stay with it.

Thanks again, I will move on to do some more price matching before hitting the order button.
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Thanks for your responses.

@quikgp: sorry I was not clear. I already have the 24" Dell 2405 which has 1920x1200 resolution. I was going for the ATI 4770, but now 4850 is on sale to the price point of 4770. So, I will go for it, and as I said, I don't game much, so not too worried about it. Just wonder what PowerColor is like in terms of their product quality and customer service.

@geokilla: I like the idea of Vendetta 2. The reason I chose TRUE is that on another thread, a poster by the name of somecanadianguy has it and has great temperatures, although he is using CM690 case. In fact, I followed his built except for the ram and case. I'll give it some thought, since vendetta will lower my cost. As for the Sonata III, it has 500W psu, but its cost is pretty close to what I am considering (TX650 and Antec 300), so I'll stay with it.

Thanks again, I will move on to do some more price matching before hitting the order button.
I think the Gladiator MAX might be a bit better because the Core i7 is a huge chip, thus letting the Gladiator MAX effectively use all 4 heatpipes to distribute the heat.

If you think you'll game more in the future, look into purchasing the 4870 or GTX260 Core 216 (great sale yesterday). These 2 GPUs are definitely better than the 4850 and whill provide the performance you'll want in games. You could always stick with the 4850 but you might have to turn the resolution or detail/AA/AF down.
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Those OCZ ram kits are great for the price, I agree you should maybe look at a GTX 260/4870 as well. I dont think the TRUE fits in a 300 but I might be wrong, I wont go into the 300 vs CM 690 flame wars, I just dont like the 300 case thru and thru.

Personally I would stick with the TRUE, they have performed very well for alot of the HWC members, drop another fan on it for push pull and you should be able to hit 4ghz on air.
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Thanks for your input.

Will a x-fire 4850 be just as good as GTX260/4870? If so, I can just buy one now, and if needed in the future, buy the second one. What do you think?

BTW, I think I'll stick with TRUE, since it comes with the right bracket for i7.
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Crossfired, the 4850 and 4770 perform at near GTX 280 levels, so it will be better than GTX260/4870 when the game supports Sli/Crossfire.

If the price is the same, I'd personally still go for 4770 since it takes literally a single click to overclock, and still produce less heat and use less power than the 4850. 4770 is supposed to also scale better in Crossfire, although that can change if ATI updates the 4850 driver.
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Unfortunately, Powercolor HD4850 is $20 cheaper than HD4770. I am reading 4770 review again to see if I should spend the extra $20.
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1062cdn?

then i will build i7 soon... i just like 1000cdn building ;p


good job with list... but
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To drop the price even more, switch to an OCZ Vendetta 2 or OCZ Gladiator MAX. Those will cool your Core i7 just as good, if not better thanks to its HDT technology.
i recommend vendetta over max for good value...


and about video card and case... you decide... you prefer cheaper over anything... >_>;

if you were me then i will grab 4890 or gtx260c216 OC/gtx285... and littler bigger than that case such as cm690 or whatever...
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