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Old March 24, 2009, 01:26 PM
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I know most people on here are building rigs for gaming. However, I'm building a rig for my sister and she doesn't game at all. I was hoping to get some advice though and here are the specifics...

The case must be "tiny" according to her so I'm looking at mini cases like the NSK4480. I wanted to give her an HDMI output if she needs to connect to her T.V, so I was looking at the ASUS P5E-VM HDMI. Her budget is only $800 and it has to include a monitor and OS :(. So, I'm not sure what CPU to go for here, but I was thinking of a cheap quad core and the 640GB AAKS drive from WD. Any help you can provide would be REALLY appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Oh, I don't care about the size of the monitor, but I want it to be LCD. Cheapest I've found with a decent resolution is $150.

1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.

Watching videos of the kids, storing pics and videos, surfing the net, using MS Office, etc... Nothing intense

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread

Max is $800

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.

I live in Toronto and I can go anywhere: Canada Computers, Infonec, etc...

4. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc, etc, etc, you get the picture.

I'd prefer intel since I've only built one AMD rig in the past and I'm more familiar with Intel.

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.

NONE :(

6. IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads.

I have, no one has a budget this low that is recent.

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.

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8. WHEN do you plan to build it?

Tomorrow - If possible.
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Old March 24, 2009, 01:52 PM
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What about this Shuttle? NCIX.com - Buy Shuttle XPC X27 Barebones Mini PC Intel Atom 230 945GC DDR2-533 SATA Video Sound GBLAN - X27-BK-V1 In Canada. It has a DVI VGA output. You're only missing a single 2Gb Ram stick, and a 2.5" SATA HDD. Add Vista, and you're GTG.

Or this:

NCIX.com - Buy NCIX Value Bundle Deal Athlon 64 X2 BE-2400 Processor 2GB RAM & ECS GF6100 Motherboard -UNASSEMBLED - BE-2400-ECS-6100-2GB In Canada.

NCIX.com - Buy Coolermaster Elite RC-330 ATX Blk Case 4X5.25 2X3.5 5X3.5INT No PS 1X120MM Rear Fan Front I/O Panel - RC-330-KKN1 In Canada.

NCIX.com - Buy Corsair CMPSU-400CX 400CX 400W ATX 12V 30A Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan - CMPSU-400CX In Canada.
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Old March 24, 2009, 02:00 PM
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Before you spend any money on components, go have a look at what FS or Staples have to offer in your price range. It sounds like your sister needs a decent general purpose computer, and the fact that she's going to need a monitor means that one of the pre-built kits will probably be the most cost effective solution for her (plus you'll get a legit OS to go with it).

It is very hard to put together a reasonably good complete system for less than you can find a better one at the big box stores. (10 years ago I'd have shot myself in the head before saying something like that..... :) ).
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Old March 24, 2009, 02:01 PM
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If your sister doesn't game, $500 should be enough for your computer, not including the monitor. Go check out Future Shop or Best Buy and see what they have for $500. May I also suggest a cheap laptop?

Actually, a quick browse at NCIX can get you the following for around $500 + tax.

NCIX.com - Buy NCIX PC E140 Athlon 64 X2 BE-2400 2GB RAM 250GB USB Sound Video LAN DVD 350W -ASSEMBLED - NCIXPC-E140 In Canada. or NCIX.com - Buy NCIX PC V140 Intel E5200 Dual Core 2GB RAM 250GB USB Sound Video LAN DVD 350W -ASSEMBLED - NCIXPC-V140 In Canada.
NCIX.com - Buy Acer X183H B 18.5IN LCD Widescreen Monitor Black 1366X768 10000:1 5MS VGA - ET.XX3WP.001 In Canada.

All you're missing is a set of speakers then you'd be good to go.
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My father-in-law needs exactly the same type of computer as your sister does. I told him that I would help him pick out a ready built unit at Best Buy or where ever. I couldn't really build him one for less and I didn't want to be obligated to lifelong support. I'll end up doing tech support for him anyways, but that will be because I want to, not because I have to. I want to retain my status as favorite son-in-law anyways (actually I'm the only one, but he still calls that).

In this case +1 pre-built.

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I've been imaginary planning (aka want to build but don't have money but keep looking anyway) something like this for a while, but a little more high end.

The way I look at it and from what you say, these have to be the key features
-Small
-Storage for pics and movies
-Powerful enough for multitasking but nothing serious.

So heres what I just put together in ncix checkout.

First processor.
NCIX.com - Buy Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200 Dual Core Processor LGA775 2.5GHZ 800FSB 2MB Retail Box - BX80571E5200 In Canada.
Intel E5200 2.6GHz Core2Duo. Nothing to serious but dual core and decent speed.

Ram
NCIX.com - Buy G.SKILL F2-6400CL4D-4GBPK PC2-6400 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-800 CL4-4-4-12 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit - F2-6400CL4D-4GBPK In Canada.
G.Skill, just a decent 2x2GB set for 4GB so she won't have to worry about upgrading anytime soon. You could save yourself 25 bucks or so by getting a 2x1GB kit for 2GB but then if she needs to upgrade it could be a hassel finding similar ram...always is.

now for the money maker.
the motherboard
NCIX.com - Buy Intel BOXDG45FC MINI-ITX LGA775 DDR2 G45 PCI-E1 Audio GBLAN GMA X4500HD Video HDMI DVI Motherboard - BOXDG45FC In Canada.
Intel BOXDG45FC
takes core2duo but is in the small mini-itx form factor. its a little pricy, you could save 60 or 70 bucks by getting something like this
NCIX.com - Buy Zotac NF630I-D-E MINI-ITX LGA775 GeForce 7100 DDR2 1PCI-E1 2SATA2 RAID LAN DVI Motherboard - NF630I-D-E In Canada.
but it does not have a HDMI port and is probably not as high quality.

with that mobo and this
NCIX.com - Buy Apex MI-008 MINI-ITX Case Glossy Black 1X5.25 1X3.5 1X3.5INT Sfx 250W Front Audio USB - MI-008 In Canada.
nice little mini-itx case (with a 250watt PSU included) she can probably stick the comp anywhere.

Then for all here storage needs
NCIX.com - Buy Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1000GB 1TB SATA2 7200RPM 32MB Cache NCQ Hard Drive OEM - ST31000340AS In Canada.
Seagate 1TB drive, dare here to try to fill it with pics and movies. lol

then a standard DVD
NCIX.com - Buy LG GH22NS30 Black DVD+RW 22X8X16 DVD-RW 22X6X16 DL 16X/12X 2MB SATA OEM - GH22NS30 BLACK In Canada.

and some monitor...
NCIX.com - Buy Samsung SyncMaster 2033SW 20IN Widescreen LCD Monitor 1600X900 15000:1DC 5MS 16:9 VGA DVI-D - LS20CMZKFV/ZC In Canada.

All of this with the ideas listed above in mind came to 702.74 before shipping/taxes
throw in some cheap keyboard and mouse and maybe speakers and you probably might go just a tad over 800.
Again you can cheap it up a bit with a different mobo, smaller HDD, and maybe 2GB of ram instead of 4GB but thats a pretty decent system by any standard.

I'd buy it. :)
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You basically confirmed what I was thinking...

I'll have a look at the links you sent, plus FS/BB/Dell...

Thanks guys!!!
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Old March 24, 2009, 04:41 PM
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I like that build "The Max". Maybe I'll go with that. Thanks again to everyone!
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