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Old March 19, 2009, 11:56 PM
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+1 on the 1tb drives... our building used a 500gig drive that only records on motion... 9 cameras... chewed it up in about 3 days tops. Besides your gonna want high quality video unless you'll never beable to really see an offender. Bottom line with CTV setups... the vid card is everything. IT does all the recording and vid compression. A middle of the road CTV vid card runs around 600bux.
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Old March 20, 2009, 01:05 AM
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ok what do you recommend 1 tb hard driver? i dont want to use spinpoint f1... not reliable... how about seagate? of course i will use 250gb as os system...

so ati card is not good enough... eh? then about about hd4850 or whatever cheap than nvidia g92...

edit: are you talking about CTV card... not video card? if so then about pelco that i mention (sorry i can't find a link... i am not sure if the model is wrong)...
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Old March 20, 2009, 01:07 AM
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ok what do you recommend 1 tb hard driver? i dont want to use spinpoint f1... not reliable... how about seagate? of course i will use 250gb as os system...

so ati card is not good enough... eh? then about about hd4850 or whatever cheap than nvidia g92...
I'd say WD Caviar Green 1TB would do that application nicely. You don't need crazy speeds, and it's quiet, low power, and reliable.
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Old March 20, 2009, 01:08 AM
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i thought speed and quiet would be better...

i will check price... remember thats he wants low budget useless its very good reasonable...

edit: of course the computer will be in bedroom which is far away from master bedroom... and he lives alone...
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Canadian Prices: OCZ - OCZ Platinum XTC REV.2 2GB (2x1GB) PC2-6400 DDR2-800 CL4-4-4-15 240-Pin... - OCZ2P800R22GK
Canadian Prices: Corsair - Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X2048-6400 2GB 2X1GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 CL... - TWIN2X20486400
Canadian Prices: Corsair - Corsair Dual Channel TWINX 2048MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz E.P.P. Memory... - TWIN2X20486400C4

Canadian Prices: Seagate Technology - Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1TB (1000GB) - SATA 3Gb/s Hard... - ST31000340AS
Canadian Prices: Western Digital - Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB SATA2 8MB Cache 3.5″ Hard... - WD10EAVS

Canadian Prices: Intel Corporation - Intel Pentium Dual-Core E5200 (2.5 GHz) Dual-Core Socket... - BX80571E5200

Canadian Prices: Asus - Asus P5KPL-CM Intel G31 LGA775 FSB1600MHz 2DDR2 SATAII Video Audio GB... - P5KPLCM
Canadian Prices: Asus - Asus P5GC-MX 945GC LGA775 Sound/ 10/100 Lan/ GMA 950 Video/ SATA/ mATX - P5GCMX
Canadian Prices: Gigabyte - GIGABYTE GA-G31M-ES2L Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - GAG31MES2L
Canadian Prices: Biostar - Biostar G31-M7 OC mATX LGA775 G31 DDR2 1 PCI-E x16 2 PCI SATA2... - G31M7OC


so i will pick

090 e5200 ( for server? desktop is expensive o_O?)
020 ocz
055 biostar -- notice that another mobo have video onboard...
109 seagate or wd as long as they are in stock... i think more of wd...

274 cdn... pretty good for low budget as my friend's dad prefers...


so what do you think?
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Old March 20, 2009, 08:08 PM
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bump... i wonder... is biostar good as gigabyte and asus?
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oops you are right... its PCI (not PCI-E)

why do you choose p5k pl and e5200?


i never heard of sparkle... so is it really good? i will install winxp pro sp3 on it...

what about video card interga (on mobo) or atom like this NCIX.com - Buy Intel BOXD945GCLF2 MINI-ITX DDR2 945GC Dual Core Atom 1PCI Motherboard Retail - BOXD945GCLF2 In Canada.


The last few whiteboxed PCI capture cards I've worked with did the "processing" onboard the card itself.
I have a Geovision card running right now and it just peaked at 10% CPU Usage on a 16 camera setup. Depending on the capture card, CPU is NOT important. I just chose an E5200 because it's generally more available than the E1200. And for a few bucks more... why not...

As for the board... it's cheap, has onboard basically everything and is again cheap.


You could do an Atom if you like. It's definitely cheaper than a board+CPU and I can't see a dedicated cam system choking even that. (Depending on the controller card obviously)
The only issue I can see is the lack of SATA ports. If the Dual Core Atom is anything like the single core, it only has 2x SATA ports.


Sparkle is basically the ONLY PSU I use for every low end build I do. It even gets into most medium end builds too. It's a deadly solid PSU that I've deployed into 20-30 machines. Hell, I have 4 of them on my shelf right now waiting for builds.


Oh and depending on your budget, I'd consider something with an Intel RAID. No real need for a dedicated RAID card since it's only RAID1. A pair of 1TB drives (WD Greens will do fine) should give you about a week of video, depending on stuff like FPS, compression, motion activation, 24/7 or 9-5 etc.

I've always liked this board if you don't mind ATX:
NCIX.com - Buy Biostar Tpower I45 ATX LGA775 P45 DDR2OC 2PCI-E 2PCI SATA2 RAID Sound GBLAN CrossFireX Motherboard - TPower I45 In Canada.

It's my favorite LGA775 board.
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Old March 20, 2009, 10:30 PM
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i see... thank you for telling me good informations...

2x sata is good enough... i will try to use sparkle when i am about to build a low budget computer...

i will try 1 tib for now...

atx is fine but $100 or above is too much... i mean he will leave the computer alone (he had another computer and laptop) so it would be overkill and pointless...

oh btw... do you check other boards... other boards might have more features than asus at good deal...
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Old March 20, 2009, 10:32 PM
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Yeah I'd go with the caviar green over that drive big time, that's the exact one that everyone was having problems with!

Seagate 1 TB drives comitting suicide?
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Old March 20, 2009, 10:34 PM
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i remember that thread but i believe seagate fix that problems now...


oh btw i forget to ask... what good program do you recommend... paid or freware or whatever is fine...
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