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Old March 12, 2009, 08:50 PM
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Hi!
Didn't find any post/treat to say hello first time...
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Second, there is a configuration that I would like you to check it out.

A few hit before starting:

*At the moment I have a preference for AMD system, simply because they are cheaper and could be highly upgradeable on the am2+ platform.

*You will see and guess, I am budget limited. So I try to build a system that will stand for a long time AND will offer good performance+upgrade ability.

*I want to overclock every single ******g piece of this computer. Well you get it. I already got a watercooling cpu kit and a vf900-led from zalman that I would like to re-use if possible. And we don't speak about the TONS of fan....

*I'm not in research of ultimate performance. But good performance ratio is important.

*I am a comparator Freak, so prepare yours arguments.

*I will upgrade this configuration over the years to come...


*New component needed:
-Motherboard
-CPU
-Memory
-Graphic card
-Power supply

Alright let's starts:

1 choice

-ASUS M4A79 Deluxe AM2+/AM2 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard
-MSI R4830-T2D512 Radeon HD 4830 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
-CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail
-G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPI
-AMD Athlon 64 X2 7750 Kuma 2.7GHz Socket AM2+ 95W Dual-Core black edition Processor Model AD775ZWCGHBOX - Retail

2 choice

Some configuration except for the motherboard:

-GIGABYTE GA-MA790GP-UD4H AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail


There is the ''thing''...

First I would like your overall review.

Since I am interested in in long lasting part/etc... Does it wort it to pay around 75$ more for a really ultimate motherboard? For the config that i'm looking for, does it worth it?
I got 2X16 pcie on the asus one vs one on the gigabyte except that I could do a ''virtual'' crossfire with the integrated chipset.

Voilà!
Thx for your time!
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Old March 13, 2009, 11:33 PM
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Are you doing much gaming on this rig?

If so I would tone down the psu and grab a 4850. Unless you were planning on adding a second 4830 later on.

*I don't think the hybrid/virtual crossfire works with any vid card above the 3000 series.

As for mobo's I don't think you can go wrong with either one really. I had to rma my gigabyte board *most likely my fault. Was fixed and sent back within 3 weeks no questions asked.

Note. if you are planning on running 2 vid cards later on I have a x-fire board Im willing to sell
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Drop the single core 7750 its not very good and lost alot of contests vs the Dual core E5200, I really really advise you to go with either the X3 710 or the X3 720 BE. Also I second the vote for a lower wattage PSU unless your looking to go Xfire, and even then I think a TX650 could handle 2 of those things. Id probubly grab the 790FX over the 790GX but thats just my preference. overall nice looking build, similar to what I was going to go with before I decided C2D.

Also nice choice on the G.Skill ram, although I think the DDR2 8000s are onsale for $54 at NCIX right now and would be plenty especially if you go with a BE CPU. =)
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Drop the single core 7750 its not very good and lost alot of contests vs the Dual core E5200
That 7750 is a dual core if I read the product description right.



I second going with a x3 720 though.
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Woops lol thanks for pointing that out avid... yeah it is a dual core. I was tryin to point out that it wasnt a good contender in this market.
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I'm not here to argue about anything but I was with AMD for many years

Intel guy now

But thats personal opinion and satisfaction

Like it as not ddr2 ram phasing out in a bit
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There isnt alot of performance increase going from DDR2 - 3 I wouldnt say its getting phased out completely. If you get a motherboard that supports DDR2 with a newer CPU then its going to last you untill you upgrade to another motherboard and CPU. Only reason DDR3 is "phasing in" is the x58 chipset only supporting it. Only reason I went with DDR3 was because it came free with my motherboard, and its what my motherboard supports, otherwise I would have gone with DDR2 8500s =) $35 less for a 750i and DDR2? I couldnt resist.
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There isnt alot of performance increase going from DDR2 - 3 I wouldnt say its getting phased out completely. If you get a motherboard that supports DDR2 with a newer CPU then its going to last you untill you upgrade to another motherboard and CPU. Only reason DDR3 is "phasing in" is the x58 chipset only supporting it. Only reason I went with DDR3 was because it came free with my motherboard, and its what my motherboard supports, otherwise I would have gone with DDR2 8500s =) $35 less for a 750i and DDR2? I couldnt resist.
I hear you but you still got ddr3 and it may have come with your board but you choose the board....and now have the latest good for a longer stint

I still have ddr2 as well
Every previous ram type has bit the dust after the new stuff grabs hold.
look at all the ddr stuff gone by....only thing new pretty much left is we bit of 400 3200 at $$
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thx for your answer.
I don't have time to answer everyone right now but your feedback is appreciated.
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Old March 14, 2009, 09:09 AM
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Still got time to reply to a few...
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-The psu difference beween the 750w corsair and the 610w pc cooling & something... is 25$
Both have a 5 years warranty, since I built it for the long run, let's go 750W

- The graphic card from 4830 to 4850 seem interesting since there is some deal going on on the web about the 4850.

-The difference between the Kuma and the X3 720 be is double price... (why go for the 710 since there is only a small difference between the 710 and 720). Maybe I will have better performance (maybe double) but it come at a price that I am not persuaded to pay for. Since I run a P4 for over 6 years now and still play game on it, I don't need to have a powerful processor for the moment. I will upgrade for a better processor for sure, but not for the moment.

-I think I'm gonna stick to the 790 fx, simply because I really wanna try the Crossfire. And gonna cost lest for long lasting upgrade.

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