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Old March 10, 2009, 07:15 AM
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Well it's time to build a new PC seems I have configured one but was hoping with the pro's out here you could suggest options on reducing price a bit and or a better combination of things to make it better.
I will be doing a little over clocking thinking of putting it to 3ghz and letting it sit there. It's on 24/7 and is used as family game pc along with some video work more family videos no big editing more just putting them together with music and stuff like that. The pc will be used a lot for downloads decompressing files and stuff like that.

ok now on with what I was thinking of putting together for the family.
CPU = i7 920 - $355
MB = Asus P6T-Deluxe - $360
Mem= OCZ (OCZ3P1333LV6GK) - $175
Vid= Asus EN9800GTX+ DK - $235
Data HD = Seagate 1TB - $116
OS HD = SAS 300gb – Already have want to use for OS / APS
PS= Corsair CMPSI- 1000HX - $290
CPU Fan= Thermalright Ultra - $95
OS = Vista Ultimate 64-Bit (OEM) - $200
DVD= LG GH22LS30 - $34
Case = Antec nine Hundred Black - $129
Total $1989 Ouch how can this be reduced without really loosing much

What are your feelings?
Reduce the power supply? If so I like the new that you only put the power cords you need when you need them?
Also note I have picked this motherboard as I have a 300gb SAS hard drive already.
Also note I will be putting in my 3x500gb drives that exist in my pc now.
I'm not a new builder but only build every 3years when I have the need. I'm hopping to again be able to upgrade this pc in about 1.5years with a new CPU and memory but the rest should stay hopping to get 3years out of it.


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Old March 10, 2009, 08:45 AM
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Don't forget to Price Match (if ordering from NCIX) using Canadian Prices: Search. Compare. Buy. - Canadian Online Shopping Search and Comparison!.

Change the P6T Deluxe to the vanilla P6T. You can also save more with a Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD3R.
G.Skill has a very cheap 6GB kit for $140 - NCIX.com - Buy G.SKILL F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ 6GB DDR3 3X2GB DDR3-1600 CL 9-9-9-24 Triple Channel Memory Kit - F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ In Canada.
You can find a 9800GTX+ for less as well. Use the search engine above.

You should honestly get rid of that SAS drive. I know it's really cool to have, but it's not necessary. It will save you a bit of money if you sell it (I'm sure someone on HWC will take it) and get a WD Caviar Black 640 GB drive. Plenty fast for an OS drive. It will save you you money on the Motherboard selection as well.

The case could be stepped down to a CM 690 or 590 or an Antec 300. Have a look at those. I know they're much smaller, but they do have decent performance for the price.

You may be able to save a few bucks if you bought the Noctua heatsink as well.

Just really have a look around. Use that search engine I listed at the beginning of my post to find some good prices on this stuff. It's also listed at the top right of HWC.

Hope this helps. There's lots of options. You just have to find them. I'm NOT giving out everything because I want you to get used to shopping aroudn just like everyone else. :)
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Old March 10, 2009, 08:50 AM
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The PSU is major overkill. You probably could drop to the HX620, or the TX750 and save over $100.
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Old March 10, 2009, 09:15 AM
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The PSU is major overkill. You probably could drop to the HX620, or the TX750 and save over $100.
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Unless your planning some power hungry GPU's in SLI down the road. I believe the HX620 is modular like the 1000w too
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Old March 10, 2009, 10:12 AM
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+1 to all the above comments, in particular:
1. Go with the WD 640 Blacks
2. As mentioned, the PSU is overkill...I have it, but I'm running 2 x GTX 280's in SLI and my I7 is at 3.8 Ghz.
3. I just threw a 9800GTX+ in my 2nd Rig a month ago and paid around $189 for it (I think)
4. Why Vista 64 Bit Ultimate...save about $60 and go with Vista 64 Bit Home Premium (unless you really need it)
5. See if you can find a good "bundled" deal, as in 1366 Mobo n I7 920 (think I paid $650 for mine from NCIX a few months back)

As your finding out...its still tough to build a "cheap" I7 System.....consider whether an I7 System is really what is needed for a "family" PC....with that said, I love my I7 Rig....

Good luck n have fun :)
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Old March 10, 2009, 10:13 PM
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If you're just going to stay at a 3.0 Ghz overclock, you might as well stay stock or get a cheaper heatsink with decent performance over stock. But then TRUE can probably be carried over and used on your new system when you decide to change it 3 years from now (I'm just assuming you change your computer every 3 years or so), and you also have the option of OCing to higher than 3.0? Getting a cheaper heatsink, or staying at stock can save you $50-95.

And as everyone else said, 1000w is overkill. It's overkill even for Crossfire with most configurations.

If someone you know is a university/college student, then you can ask them to grab a Vista Ultimate 64 bit for you through The Ultimate Steal promotion from Microsoft: Microsoft Office for Students - The Ultimate Steal
It's $70 Canadian dollars, so that's another $130 less. (Or you can get it through shady means.)

For your motherboard, CPU and ram, you can get the exact same ones you've listed as a bundle for 800 at PC Village:
Asus X58 Socket1366 Barebone Kit - Intel i7 920 CPU OCZ 6G DDR3 1600Mhz Tri-channel Ram Asus P6T intel X58 Mainboard
But do note that the page states that the motherboard is a P6T rather than Deluxe, but the picture shows a P6T Deluxe. If it's just a normal P6T then the deal might not be so hot. Still you might rethink whether or not you really need the features of the P6T Deluxe, if not then maybe even a P6T will suffice. Only you can judge that.
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Old March 11, 2009, 05:49 AM
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Wow thanks for all the suggestions. I will now change my PSU as everyone has stated still want to stay moduler but will go with a 650w or 750w.
I'm intrested to hear if anyone has used the memery OCZ3P1333LV6GK or will the gold do just as well.
Wish I new someone in univerity :(
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Old March 11, 2009, 12:34 PM
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I just, this morning, ordered a similar system for myself. It's mainly for general use and image editing...

Like the others have said, the power supply is overkill. You may also want to have a look at the MSI X58 Pro board, it is $230 at directcanada.com and appears to be an excellent value. Definitely look around for less expensive RAM as well, as you can see below I found a great deal for 12GB's. Do you really need that video card for what your family will be doing? I looked at getting Vista Ultimate but 'ultimately' decided it was overkill for my needs...



Patriot Extreme Performance Viper 6GB 3X2GB DDR3-1333 CL9-9-9-24 Triple Channel Memory Kit 2 Yes $113.79 $227.58

Intel Core I7 920 Quad Core Processor LGA1366 2.66GHZ Bloomfield 8MB LGA1366 4.8GT/S 1 Yes $359.88 $359.88

MSI X58 Pro X58 ATX LGA1366 DDR3 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 2PCI CrossFire SATA2 GBLAN Motherboard 1 Yes $229.88 $229.88

PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad 750W ATX V2.2 EPS12V 24PIN SLI Active PFC Power Supply Black 1 Yes $148.37 $148.37

Sapphire Radeon HD 4670 750MHZ 512MB 1.0GHZ GDDR3 PCI-E HDMI DVI VGA HDCP Video Card 1 Yes $98.85 $98.85

Coolermaster Cosmos Full Tower ATX Case 5X5.25 6X3.5INT No PS Front USB Firewire Audio eSATA 1 Yes $210.60 $210.60

Noctua NF-S12-800 120MM Ultra Quiet Cooling Fan 800RPM 59M3/H 8DBA Molex 1 Yes $19.86 $19.86

Noctua MT-1366 LGA1366 Mounting Conversion Kit * Heatsink Not Included * 1 Yes $6.42 $6.42

Noctua NH-U12P LGA775 AM2 Heatsink Heatpipe Cooler W/ NF-P12 120MM Fan -12.6-19.8DBA 1 Yes $67.19 $67.19

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition 64BIT DVD OEM 1 Yes $146.02



Total, before taxes: $1491.93 and I got free shipping. Ordered it at 9:19am and it has already shipped out to me, gotta love DirectCanada.com.
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Sapphire Radeon HD 4670 750MHZ 512MB 1.0GHZ GDDR3 PCI-E HDMI DVI VGA HDCP Video Card 1 Yes $98.85 $98.85
You may want to consider something other than a Sapphire.....
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Patriot Extreme Performance Viper 6GB 3X2GB DDR3-1333 CL9-9-9-24 Triple Channel Memory Kit 2 Yes $113.79 $227.58
Aslo...if you're at all considering OC'ing this Chip (looks that way based on your HSF), you'll kick yourself for not spending a few more bucks and going with 1600 Mhz Memory.
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You may want to consider something other than a Sapphire.....

Aslo...if you're at all considering OC'ing this Chip (looks that way based on your HSF), you'll kick yourself for not spending a few more bucks and going with 1600 Mhz Memory.
I have had a Sapphire x1650 running in my current system for the past two years without a glitch. Hopefully the new one will be the same. I don't game at all so it shouldn't be under too much 'stress'.

I will probably play with OC'ing a bit, probably up to 3.3 or so but that's about it. I enjoy building my systems but once I have built it I don't play with it. I am not saying there is anything wrong with OC'ing, tweaking, benchmarking etc, I am just not into that at all.

I appreciate your input though and will keep an eye on the video card.
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