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Old March 8, 2009, 10:38 AM
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Hi Everyone, I've been creeping these boards for a few months now and I finally decided i need to build a new pc.

1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.

- It will be used for internet, movies, music etc but i would also like to play some games like SC2, L4D, COD, TF2. I also will be doing some work in photoshop and drawing using wacom in Sketch Book Pro.

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread

- I would like to keep it around $900 - 1200 after gst

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.

- I'm in canada so i'll be buying my parts from NCIX, or maybe even picking them up local at memoryexpress.com in Edmonton

4. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc, etc, etc, you get the picture.

No preference, infact i'm not really sure if for this price range it would be better to have an AMD build over an INTEL.

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.

- I don't have any current parts to use, only thing i have is two 22'' monitors
- These are the ones: max res 1680x1050

6. IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads.

- Yes i have read many threads for the past few weeks but i am so indecisive that i just need some opinions

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.

- I have never OC'd before but I do find it interesting and plan on doing it

8. WHEN do you plan to build it?

- As soon as I pick the parts


Currently this is what the build looks like:
Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB 7200RPM 32MB Dual Proc 3.5IN SATA Hard Drive OEM 5YR Mfg Warranty - 89.98
Mushkin EM PC2-6400 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-18 240PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory Kit - 63.87
ASUS P5Q Pro ATX P45 LGA775 Motherboard & Intel Q6600 Core 2 Quad Processor Bundle - 437.51
Corsair HX620W CMPSU-620HX ATX Triple 12V 50A 24PIN ATX Modular Power Supply 120MM Fa *IR-$25* - 184.99
XFX Radeon HD 4850 625MHZ 512MB 1.99GHZ DDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I HDCP HDTV Out Video Card - 209.99

Total: $986.34

- The PSU is actually
148.99 after a MIR
- And the 4850 is 189.99 after a MIR

So i still need to choose a case and probably a better cpu heatsink if i want to try some OC'ing right? Hopefully you guys can help me finally make a decision
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Old March 8, 2009, 10:53 AM
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Welcome to the forums! I'm sure folks here will be happy to help you along.

First thing that comes to view is the Motherboard / CPU combo pack you've got going there.... seems a little bit high, check to see if the individual components add up to that much. :) If not, I'm pretty sure you can pricematch it down lower.

I'd also question if you absolutely need a modular PSU... That's a great unit you've picked, but if you can do without modular you can probably find the TX750 for less than your after MIR price.

edit: If you're not familiar with price matching... there's a link above which will show you pricing on Canadian e-tailers, and a spot on the NCIX order page to request that they match the lowest Canadian price you can find.
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Old March 8, 2009, 11:03 AM
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Hi Welcome- just some suggestions


A good price on a very good CPU cooler (
NCIX.com - Buy Xigmatek HDT-S1283 Direct Touch 3 Heatpipe Heatsink AM2 LGA775 S754 S939 S940 W 120MM PWM Fan - HDT-S1283 In Canada.

An e8400 dual core CPU, but fast and cheap and a good ocer (210)
NCIX.com - Buy Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Dual Core Processor LGA775 3.0GHZ Wolfdale 1333FSB 6MB Retail - BX80570E8400 In Canada.

A 4850 for 164
NCIX.com - Buy Powercolor Radeon HD 4850 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E Video Card - AX4850 512MD3-DH In Canada.

An ASUS p5Q Pro for 140 FREE SHIPPING ON ENTIRE ORDER- this will save you 60 bucks!
NCIX.com - Buy ASUS P5Q Pro ATX LGA775 P45 DDR2 2PCI-E16 CrossFire 3PCI-E1 2PCI SATA2 Sound GBLAN eSATA Motherboard - P5Q Pro In Canada.

Corsair HX620 for 148 (edit- I see you found this sale)
NCIX.com - Buy Corsair HX620W CMPSU-620HX ATX Triple 12V 50A 24PIN ATX Modular Power Supply 120MM Fan 2X PCI-E - CMPSU-620HX In Canada.

but if you wanted to save more on the PSU, the OCZ gamexstream is on for about 100 bucks - not as good, but sufficient.

And you can get faster memory for less money in the sales

NCIX.com - Buy OCZ XTC Platinum Edition PC2-8500 DDR2 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-1066 CL5-5-5-18 Dual Channel EPP Memory Kit - OCZ2P10664GK In Canada. Technology&promoid=1065

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Old March 8, 2009, 05:38 PM
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Two good choices for PSU

Canada Computers - Corsair CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX 12V 41A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan. $ 69.99 after $36 MIR + $9 IR.

Canada Computers - PC Power & Cooling (S75QB) Silencer 750 Quad 750W ATX V2.2 EPS12V 24PIN SLI Active PFC Power Supply Black. $ 117.99 after $25 MIR + $10 IR...
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Old March 8, 2009, 07:57 PM
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You might want to wait till the next NCIX sale. Always try to purchase on a Wednesday evening :P

What Babrbarossa suggested is good. However instead of getting the E8400, get the E7400 just to keep the price down. The performance difference is negligible in my opinion.

Get the OCZ GameXStream 600W. I'm using it to power my current rig in sig and I'm running F@H on the CPU and GPU and it's handling the load just fine.

Get the NCIX.com - Buy Patriot Viper Extreme Performance 4GB DDR2 2X2GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 CL 4-4-4-12 Memory Kit - PVS24G6400LLK In Canada. as well. You could easily overclock these to at least DDR900, thus matching the 450FSB that a E8400 can do.

If you run F@H, you'll want to get a NVIDIA GPU, such has the 9800GTX+ (GTS250) or the GTX260 if they hit $199 again. Otherwise, a ATI 4830 or 4850 will do the job just fine at 1680X1050.

Finally, don't forget to price match using the price match feature on Hardware Canucks and on NCIX!
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Old March 8, 2009, 08:00 PM
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It doesn't look like he's going to be doing THAT heavy stuff, so yeah, I suggest the OP consider getting a Core 2 Duo (specifically the E8400 @ 3.0GHz, as it's the best bang for your buck at the moment).
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Old March 9, 2009, 09:32 AM
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such has the 9800GTX+
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I threw this in my 2nd Rig for my wifes Office and was very impressed with it.
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It doesn't look like he's going to be doing THAT heavy stuff, so yeah, I suggest the OP consider getting a Core 2 Duo (specifically the E8400 @ 3.0GHz, as it's the best bang for your buck at the moment).
I'm not completely sure the E8400 is indeed the "best bang for the buck" anymore...I have been out of the loop for a month (at work), but seems I've seen folks having very good results OC'ing thier E7xxx Series as well?!

Hey Grunts...its been awhile since you built that Rig...have you OC'd that E8400 yet? I remember your Thread and your decision to get that Aftermarket HSF...hows it working out for you?
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Old March 9, 2009, 10:19 AM
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I managed to get my E7400 up to 4ghz but it takes like 1.45 volts or so which is pretty high for 45nm, im rock stable at 3.6ghz right now with a HDT-1283 I hover at 48c after 9 hours of prime95. overall very decent CPU but id also point people in the E5200 direction if they really want price performance.
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+1 also to the 9800GTX+

I have 1 installed and have had it for 6 months and I am very happy with it, runs very cool and performs amazingly well for the $165 I paid for it, I have a 2nd one coming hopefully this week for SLI.
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Old March 9, 2009, 12:38 PM
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Sweet, thanks for all the info guys, i've adjusted the build a little bit so let me know what you think.

EVGA E-GEFORCE 9800GTX+ SC 756MHZ 512MB 2.24GHZ 256BIT DDR3 Dual DVI-I HDCP HDTV Out Video Card -$209.99
Antec Three Hundred Mini Tower Gaming Case 300 ATX 3X5.25 6X3.5INT No PS Front USB & Audio - $65.99
Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB 7200RPM 32MB Dual Proc 3.5IN SATA Hard Drive OEM 5YR Mfg Warranty - $89.98
Corsair TX750W 750W ATX 12V 60A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 140MM Fan *IR-$5* - 133.01
Xigmatek Dark Knight S1283 Direct Touch 3HEATPIPE Heatsink AM2 LGA775 S754 S939 S940 W/120MM PWM Fan - PM $48.95
ASUS P5Q Pro ATX LGA775 P45 DDR2 2PCI-E16 CrossFire 3PCI-E1 2PCI SATA2 Sound GBLAN eSATA Motherboard - $155.99 (free shipping entire order)
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Dual Core Processor LGA775 3.0GHZ Wolfdale 1333FSB 6MB Retail - 199.99$

$903.90 ( Before MIR )


I think all i'm missing is RAM, now this is where i'm not really sure what kind i need. I know i will be getting DDR2 but i'm pretty lost on what speed etc
Someone recommended the Patriot ram that is on sale so i might go with that.

Another big thing I changed was the power supply but the more i think of it the more i really like that 620HX because it is modular. I hate cables, and i think it would alost be worth the extra 40 or 50 bucks because the antec 300 case isn't that large.

The reason i chose that Xigmatek Dark Knight is because it comes with a backplate included.





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