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Old March 1, 2009, 10:07 PM
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Hey guys, I'm new to this site and would really like a lot of help in building my first custom PC. First, I need to tell you that I'm still a high school student, and my birthday was 2 days ago(turned 18) and I'm getting $800 bucks in march break from family :D. Also, I never opened a computer and saw whats inside it before, but i have seen some videos here and there, and been browsing this site for about a month so I think "I know the basics"

I decided I need to gaming computer because i never had one before. Current computer is bought since 2003, good for internet and emails + empire earth(that is a big thing for a computer that old).

Now its time for me to answer some questions.:rtfm:

1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.

Gaming

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread

800 bucks + 100 bucks to buy games (not interested in downloading pirated games)

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.

Canada (I live in Ottawa)

4. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc, etc, etc, you get the picture.

I don't mind any, although my 2003 system is intel and never had problems with it but that is my only system so I don't know really

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.

external dvd burner, maybe buy a used monitor from usedottawa.com if necessary


6. IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads.

yes i read some but the people wanting help already know what they wanted and what parts but i dont.

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.

Sure if I know how

8. WHEN do you plan to build it?

probably by the end of march ( exams and all)

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Old March 1, 2009, 11:00 PM
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Hmmm...$800 budget build can definitely be done. $100 will get youe 2 or 3 games max, depending on the price FYI. Without further adue, I give you my budget system!

Case: Antec Sonata III w/ 500W PSU - $140 OR
Antec 300 - $65
PSU: CM Extreme Power 600W - $75
Mobo: ECS P45T-A - $100 after $15 MIR OR:
Gigabyte EP45-UD3L - $114
CPU: Core2Duo E5200 - $80
RAM: OCZ Gold 4GB DDR2-800 - $50
HDD: WD Caviar Black 640GB - $90
DVD: LG 22x Dual-Layer DVD burner - $25

I know I left out video card, but if you go with this setup you should have about $315 to spend on a video card. Now, you have a few choices in this price bracket. You can get a GTX 260 C216 for $270 after $20 MIR, and use up all the cash you got. Or you can get the slightly lesser but significantly cheaper 4870 with prices generally ranging (on the cheap) from $200 to $270, no MIR. With the money you save, you can buy games, or a better CPU Cooler like the OCZ Vendetta II. Or if you want to save just a bit more money, then go with the 9800GTX+ for $180 after $20 MIR, or a $185 4850 straight up, no rebates. Should you decide to go with the latter two options, you will have plenty of extra money for games and a non-stock heatsink should you decide to overclock.

EDIT: Should you decide to get the GTX260, it would be advisable to get more than a 600W PSU. Sorry I should have included this suggestion in the original post, but it totally slipped my mind. Luckily, there's a CM Xtreme Power 650W for $83, or for some extra insurance a OCZ ModXStream Modular 700W PSU for $105 (ouch) will do the trick. You won't go OB if you buy either of these.

Also note that I stole prices from tons of random sites, but the reason I did that is because you can use those sites and pricematch it at NCIX, and then just buy a $10 giftcard with free shipping for whole order. Of course, some of those places are located near you so you can pick it up and save a bunch, but I personally like to pricematch. Your call.
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Old March 2, 2009, 02:16 AM
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Case: Antec Sonata III w/ 500W PSU - $140 OR
Antec 300 - $65
PSU: CM Extreme Power 600W - $75
Mobo: ECS P45T-A - $100 after $15 MIR OR:
Gigabyte EP45-UD3L - $114
CPU: Core2Duo E5200 - $80
RAM: OCZ Gold 4GB DDR2-800 - $50
HDD: WD Caviar Black 640GB - $90
DVD: LG 22x Dual-Layer DVD burner - $25
I wouldn't advise with the Coolermaster PSU. Not exactly top quality IMO. And I'd consider a P43 Gigabyte board as well if the P45 Gigabyte is too much. Don't really like ECS. Otherwise it looks alright though.

Might be worthwhile looking into AMD as well but a Phenom II 710 would probably be too pricey for a $800 build.

Probably best to get the case locally to save on shipping if you can't get free shipping. I believe a Canada Computers has opened up in Ottawa but I have no idea if that's nearby to you.

I'll try putting together a Phenom II based build when I get home (at school right now) and see if it's feasible. Unless somebody beats me to it
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Canada Computers is opening up in a couple weeks in Ottawa, I have an interview there coming up actually. For the case Antec 300 is great, I bought one in October for my new computer and the temps I'm getting are really good. For the cpu I'd suggest trying to get something faster if you can find any sales, E8400 is still great but it's still around $200 around here.
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Old March 2, 2009, 08:38 AM
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Here's what I came up with at NCIX.com with $800

Of course you'd want to then use the price compare function on this site to find the lowest prices and get NCIX to price match for you.

Don't skimp on the power supply. It's the lifeblood of your machine. I think with that PSU and the Gigabyte board, you'd be quite happy with the performance of this system.

NCIX.com - Buy Antec Three Hundred Mini Tower Gaming Case 300 ATX 3X5.25 6X3.5INT No PS Front USB & Audio - THREE HUNDRED In Canada. - $65.98

NCIX.com - Buy Gigabyte EP45-UD3L ATX LGA775 P45 DDR2 PCI-E 2PCI SATA2 RAID HD Sound GBLAN Motherboard - GA-EP45-UD3L In Canada. $114.99

NCIX.com - Buy Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB 7200RPM 32MB Dual Proc 3.5IN SATA Hard Drive OEM 5YR Mfg Warranty - WD6401AALS In Canada. $89.99

NCIX.com - Buy Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200 Dual Core Processor LGA775 2.5GHZ 800FSB 2MB Retail Box - BX80571E5200 In Canada.
$101.33

NCIX.com - Buy OCZ Platinum XTC PC2-8000 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-1000 CL5-5-5-18 DDR2 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit - OCZ2P10004GK In Canada.
$58.99

NCIX.com - Buy Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 512MB GDDR5 PCI-E 2XDVI-I Video Card - 11133-03-20R In Canada.
$228.98

NCIX.com - Buy Corsair HX520W CMPSU-520HX ATX Triple 12V 40A 24PIN ATX Modular Power Supply 120MM Fan 2X PCI-E - CMPSU-520HX In Canada. $137.99


That comes to $798.25 before any price matching or rebates.



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Tsk Tsk, Zlojack, I agree with everything except the GPU. Future folder here... We need to make sure he gets an NVidia based card for a power folder. Dang ATI cards just dont cut it.
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Hmm...well, ATI cards still fold and it's a great performer. The PPD with the new Catalyst drivers has gone up (not to nVidia levels, but it's still better)

Of course, you could toss a 9800 GTX+ in there and still get great gaming performance and shave off even more money (depending on what size monitor you get)
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Hmm...well, ATI cards still fold and it's a great performer. The PPD with the new Catalyst drivers has gone up (not to nVidia levels, but it's still better)

Of course, you could toss a 9800 GTX+ in there and still get great gaming performance and shave off even more money (depending on what size monitor you get)
I'm with you on this. If he's using a WSXGA+ display (1680x1050) you don't need a GTX 260 or HD 4870. A 9800GTX+ will kill any game. That way he could bump up the CPU to something better.
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I like that list myself, although switching in a VX550 would save another $20-25, at the expense of not having modular cables. The MIR afterwards is slightly better too, fwiw.
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