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Old February 14, 2009, 09:45 PM
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Hi there, just registered after reading a few reviews. Basically my computer that I had for the past 3-4 years finally died out on me (mobo fried). So I figured I may as well build a new one.

Now I plan to to play games, watch movies, and also plan to do a lot of development with .NET on my computer. I may overclock this computer in the future but will have to see.

I already have a full tower, keyboard/mouse and a 20inch monitor. What I need help with is the "guts" of this computer.

I have no preference on which parts to go with, I prefer to buy my parts from Edmonton, unless there are some good websites that can get me better deals then what I find here. So far I chose to build my computer from Memory Express, and my budget is $1600 Canadian (before gst). This is what I have so far, if there is some better parts to get, please let me know:

---Updated: Feb 22,2009 ---
Finally had some time to check out for prices and things, and this is my new list basically all of it is now through online orders

From Best Direct.ca (total came to $911.49 after taxes, shipping and shipping insurance) - needed $500 to get free shipping

-Motherboard: ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 ...$376.20
-Processor: Intel Core I7 920 ...$348.39
-DVD Burner: Samsung SH-S223F 22x BEBN ...$24.14
-Harddrive: Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB 7200RPM ...$88.62

From DirectCanada.com (needed min of $300 for free shipping) total from here:$479.43 or $491.05 after taxes and shipping insurance
-Power Supply: Corsair TX850W ... $158.55 (before 20 mir)
-Video Card: Either EVGA E-GEFORCE GTX 260 Core 216 SC ...$302.21 (before 20 mir)
or EVGA E-GEFORCE GTX 260 Core 216 ...$290.59 (before 20 mir)

From Newegg.ca (comes to $208.95)
-Ram: OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 ...$186.39 (before 20 mir) *CAS7 from what I read about this ram (7-7-7-24)


So only 2 things left to decide, 1 is it worth the 11 bucks to get the superclocked evga video card vs the standard card?

and the 2nd is I still have to get a heatsink, I was trying to find places that had the Noctua NH-U12P SE1366 LGA1366 but it seems like only ncix ($79.99) and tigerdirect carry it, compared to the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme 1366RT which costs $78.75 from direct canada. So how much of a diff is there between the 2 heatsinks, since if I get the thermalright it won't have added shipping/handling but if I get the ncix one its about $92.37 after shipping and stuff.

I'm right at my price limit ( a bit over right now) w/o the heatsink, but is there anything that needs to change?

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Old February 14, 2009, 10:44 PM
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Get a Western Digital 640GB Black. Fastest 7200RPM drive IMO and doesn't cost much more than that 500GB.

Go with the GTX280, or even a GTX260 w/ 216 shaders. I don't think the GTX285 is really worth the premium, especially with only a 20" LCD (1680x1050).

I think the ASUS is more popular but I don't know if it's any better/worse than the Gigabyte.

Could get faster RAM but that's up to you I guess and it would add more cost...
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Old February 14, 2009, 11:21 PM
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I've heard that Gigabyte is better than ASUS. I agree about the 640gb HDD as well. Is the dvdrw sata or ide? I recently made the mistake of buying an ide burner.. I wasn't paying attention when i ordered it :P
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Old February 15, 2009, 12:15 AM
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The dvd rw is sata from what it shows on the website.

Looking at the hd you guys recommended it has WD 640GB Caviar Black 7200rpm SATA II w/ 32MB Cache .... $94.99. I'm not sure if that's the same one your talking about, also there is 500GB Caviar Black 7200rpm SATA II w/ 32MB Cache for $79.99.To be honest, the amount of space doesn't really bother me, as I have a 1 TB external drive in case I ever go out of room.

For the video card, there is a cheaper option
evga-GeForce GTX 280 SuperClocked 1GB PCI-E w/ Dual DVI, HDTV-Out .....$399.99

What would be a better option for ram? also how are the prices, do they seem reasonable compared to some online places? I just figured with shipping costs that it would cost more, but if there are any good deals then I have no problem ordering them.

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Old February 15, 2009, 08:31 AM
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Your prices look OK to me. That PSU you have selected is a very good one as well and should be more than enough, especially since you have just 1 video card. As for the 640GB vs 500GB Black HDD, I have read in a few places that the 640GB is faster than the 500GB one, hence the recommendation for that particular drive. Stay away from the Seagates right now as many have had issues btw.
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Old February 15, 2009, 09:10 AM
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Well you could just get the non-Black Western Digital 640GB. Still does on average 100MB/s read and it is cheaper.

And if you were to order from Direct Canada, shipping would be free, however they don't always have the lowest price but usually pretty close.
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Old February 15, 2009, 09:33 AM
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oh didn't know it was free shipping from Direct Canada, looking at those links Ronin provided I could just buy the i7 processor/640 gig hd from there instead of at mem express and for $5 bucks more go from a 500 gig to 650 gig hd.

Now I'm still not sure on which video card to get. I know that the 260 core 216 and 285 are built on the 55nm compared to 65nm for the 280, but is there a huge diff between the 3? I plan to get a 2nd video card later on, so I just want to be sure if my power supply will handle it.

As for the ram, is there any better ones to get?
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Old February 15, 2009, 10:11 AM
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The new Seagate 7200.12 500 GB are suppose to have 500 GB on a single platter. The buffer size is 16mb but apparently it's still one of the fastest hdds. If you have time to wait for the 32mb version, I'd look into those. This is if Seagate has staighten their problems out.

Difference between 280 and 285 is small, but the 285 uses less power and has more ocing potential. If you plan on going multi gpu and oced i7 920, 750 might be on the low side but it could still work. But for having 1 gpu 750 is plenty. I noticed you don't have a cpu cooler in your list.
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Old February 15, 2009, 10:26 AM
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Ya I wasn't sure if I would need one?
If I do there was 2 I was looking at Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme 1366 RT CPU Cooler w/ 120mm Fan ....$84.99 or cooler master v8 ....$72.99

Now some questions regarding overclocking, with either of the 2 cpu coolers would it be safe bet that I could overclock the i7 to at least 3.8 ghz possibly 4? also when overclocking how does it effect the lifespan? will I have a higher chance of causing some system failure like 2-3 years down the road instead of leaving it at the default and have it run for 4-5? or does it really make no difference once the OC is stable at whatever speed I can get it at?
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