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Old January 15, 2009, 08:20 AM
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Hi all,

I just sold my old PC for being able to play the newer game on the market.

My old spec:
AMD athlon x64 1.8ghz
2 gig of unknow ram
8600gt oc edition

1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.

Mostly gaming ( FPS and Racing ) and g/f web surfing

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 10% spread

around 1000$ or less

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.

Canada first, but US if I save alot.

4. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc, etc, etc, you get the picture.

1. I will say AMD, just because it's cheaper and I never had Intel before...
2. I want a quad-core for the newer games like GTA 4...

. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.

None... except for the keyboard, mouse and a new 21,6 monitor...

6. IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads.

Yes a lot... 2 weeks @ 6h a day...

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.

I will say default.. Never overclocked before and I can't afford buying 2x the same part because of a mistake.

8. WHEN do you plan to build it?

I will say around 2 months. ( when I will get my tax return )

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Here's what I was working on before I posted..

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 920 2.8GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDX920XCGIBOX
Motherboard: BIOSTAR TFORCE TA790GX A2+ AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
GPU: SAPPHIRE 100259-1GL Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
Memory: OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2RPR10664GK
Case: Whatever is cheap ( price ). Don't need LED or whatever that will take power for nothing.
PSU: I don't know
CPU fan: I suppose the stock one should be ok.
HD: 500gig or less... I have a couple of external hd around..

Feel free to change everythings... As long I can play GTA 4 nicely.. ( around 40fps or more.. )

Thanks!

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Old January 16, 2009, 10:02 AM
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? nobody have sugestions?
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Old January 16, 2009, 10:35 AM
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Very good deal on this power supply, not sure about in 2 months time but... here's an idea. PC Power & Cooling makes a solid product.

NCIX.com - Buy PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad CrossFire 750W ATX V2.2 EPS12 24PIN Active PFC Power Supply Red - S75CF In Canada.

From what I've read, the Western Digital SE16 hard drives in 320 and 640GB versions read faster than any other size (like 250gb, 500gb, 750gb, etc) due to more efficient platter layout. So getting a 640GB version of that harddrive for a few extra bucks would be worth it, but going with 320 to save a few bucks would be wise too, you probably won't fill that anyways.

Stock cooler will be fine since you don't plan to overclock.

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Old January 16, 2009, 11:06 AM
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thanks for the heads up..

Only thing, I'm not sure with all the missing part I will be able to fit my budget.

Maybe with a Q6600 I will save a lil more and be able to purchase everything for 1000 or under with good result. Overclocking a lil bit maybe?
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Old January 16, 2009, 11:35 AM
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so here's what I found for the Q6600...
Price are from newegg.ca because I found it more easy and fast to get a quote, but like I wrote at the beggining, I wil order from Canada.

229.99$ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz
163.09$ Motherboard: ASUS P5Q Pro
47.59$ RAM: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800
184.54$ GPU: HIS Hightech H485F512P Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 "switch from the 1gig because the total will be over"
59.69$ Case: Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower
149.04$ PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply "I will see the special when I will be ready to order the parts"
65.49$ Hard drive: Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500AAKS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive "same as the PSU"

Total w/o tx is 926.92$
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Old January 16, 2009, 11:54 AM
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Looks pretty good, but like I said about the hard-drive, go for the 320GB version of that drive, they read faster, should only be a few bucks more.
The Q6600 is probably a better idea for sure, I like to stay away from AMD now-a-days... they're just behind in technology....
That is a wicked deal on that case!
Another thing you might take into consideration, is the length of the cords on that PSU.. I really don't know how long they are, but since you're using a bottom mounted case (the antec 300) most power supply cables have a hard time reaching the 24 and 8 or 4 pin motherboard connectors, just a thought you might have to get extensions.

You could overclock the 6600 no problem quite a bit, you should be able to do 2.8ghz or so with stock cooling with reasonable temps, that case has acceptable cooling to boot.
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Old January 16, 2009, 12:04 PM
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I used the PSU as reference, but I looked in the comments and found that: "Other Thoughts: This is my first Corsair PSU. I have been very pleased with their memory, alternating between Crucial and Corsair. I used this in an Antec 300 so it was upside down. You do need to get vreative with the cable routing if you use this style case."

With others who said there's too many cables...

The connector on the boad is in the middle of the hard drive side...
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so here's what I found for the Q6600...
Price are from newegg.ca because I found it more easy and fast to get a quote, but like I wrote at the beggining, I wil order from Canada.

229.99$ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz
163.09$ Motherboard: ASUS P5Q Pro
47.59$ RAM: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800
184.54$ GPU: HIS Hightech H485F512P Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 "switch from the 1gig because the total will be over"
59.69$ Case: Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower
149.04$ PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply "I will see the special when I will be ready to order the parts"
65.49$ Hard drive: Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500AAKS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive "same as the PSU"

Total w/o tx is 926.92$
Looks good to me. However, I'd get the Corsair HX620 instead, and get a 640GB hard drive for around $90. Those are the best bang for buck right now.

As for that overclocking, just read guides, do it slowly and safely,and you'll be fine. Only way you can kill a CPU is through extreme temperatures like letting a CPU top out at 80C or through high voltages.
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so here's what I found for the Q6600...
Price are from newegg.ca because I found it more easy and fast to get a quote, but like I wrote at the beggining, I wil order from Canada.

229.99$ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz
163.09$ Motherboard: ASUS P5Q Pro
47.59$ RAM: G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800
184.54$ GPU: HIS Hightech H485F512P Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 "switch from the 1gig because the total will be over"
59.69$ Case: Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower
149.04$ PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply "I will see the special when I will be ready to order the parts"
65.49$ Hard drive: Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500AAKS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive "same as the PSU"

Total w/o tx is 926.92$
I'd consider getting a CPU heatsink, something that uses HDT and a 120mm fan. It'll be cooler and quieter and it'll give you the headroom should you ever want to overclock.

Also you might want to check out the new XFX ATI HD4850 since it has basically the best ATI warranty you'll find and dual-slot cooling.

Could knock the PSU down to the 650W Corsair model instead and save some money.

Definitely get a 640GB hard drive though, best performance to cost ratio.

I'd suggest ordering from NCIX though and using their price matching. Use Price Canada or the Price Compared on HWC to find the lowest prices. NCIX shipping will also be much cheaper than Newegg I'd think.

Might want to checkout the Q9300 instead if you can afford it. Performs a bit faster than the Q6600 at stock speeds.
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Old January 19, 2009, 06:39 AM
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I would like to know what would be your budget setup of 1000$ or less for gaming in 1680x1050 with the Q6600.

Sorry for asking so many time the same questions with different angles... But like we use to say:" mesure twice, cut once..." - something like that :P

Thanks!

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