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Old November 26, 2008, 01:44 PM
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Question My New Build (Still Need Some Blanks Filled, Please Help)....

Okay, here is what I decided to do.... I am going to go with air cooling -- for now -- and leave everything on the stock speeds, however if everything goes according to plan in the next few months I will look to water cooling, as I am going to want to get a second videocard...if Intel lets other companies build a motherboard for it's Skulltraill 2 platform I may look into that as well.

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CPU: Intel Core i7 965 (Retail box)

Mobo: ASUS Rampage II Extreme ATX LGA1366 X58 DDR3 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 PCI CrossFire SLI (Retail box)

GPU: ATi GDDR5 4870 X2 1GB/2GB (please suggest) (Retail box)

Soundcard: PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series (Retail box)

HDD: 1TB (please suggest) (Retail box)

DVD: Blu-ray, DVDR/RW, CDR/RW (please suggest) (Retail box)

PSU: 1 Kilowatt (please suggest) (Retail box)

RAM: DDR3 Triple channel 6GB (3x2GB) (please suggest) (Retail box)

CASE: Something that will let me do water cooling (please suggest) (Retail box)

Monitor: Samsung 245T (24-inch) (Retail box)

Keyboard: Razer Tarantula (Retail box)
Mouse: Razer Lachesis (Retail box)
Mouse Pad: Razer Destructor (Retail box)

OS/1: WinXP Pro (OEM)
OS/2: WinVista Home Premium 64-bit (OEM)
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Old November 26, 2008, 01:47 PM
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For cases, the Coolermaster Cosmos S is about as easy as it gets for watercooling (short of a Mountain Mods case, anyway), since the top three fans holes are perfectly spaced for most triple rads, and the side fan makes sure your motherboard is getting good airflow without a CPU heatsink fan to help out. The looks aren't for everyone, though.
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Old November 26, 2008, 01:53 PM
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The looks aren't for everyone, though.

I don't care about that, it's going to be sitting under a desk...however it doesn't mention anything about watercooling, just aircooling; I want something that will let me evetually do watercooling as I don't want to have to buy a whole new case.
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You've picked up the best parts out there, simply go on for the missing ones.

Any 4870X2
1Tb HDD, WD or Seagate
Any Blu-ray DVD
Corsair HX1000W
Wait for some Mushkin DDR3 triple channel ram set
Cases: Mountain Mod, any flavor.
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Old November 26, 2008, 02:27 PM
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I agree with MpG on the case choice, the Cosmos S will give you LOTS of breathing room if you decide to watercool. If your getting a 4870X2, well, there no such thing as a 1GB version so I guess I'd recommend the 2GB version .

As for GPU vendor, I'd go with either VisionTek or HIS, my reasoning for this is VisionTek has a lifetime warrenty, and HIS if you buy it on NCIX, all warranty service is DONE with NCIX for the first year.

On the HDD, I'd recommend the Western Digital 1TB Black Edition, one of the most reliable 1TB drives, and a great uber speed to boot.

On the PSU side I'd recommend the SilverStone Olympia 1000Watt PSU, very high quality, and an awesome price.

As for the ram, you really limited right now, NCIX/CD only sell3 kits right now and there all pretty much the same, I'd grab the Patriot Extreme Viper 6GB DDR3 3X2GB DDR3-1600 CL 9-9-9-24 Triple Channel Memory Kit simply because there on sale and the cheapest kit. So to sum it up

GPU - HIS or VisonTek 4870X2 2GB
HDD - WD 1TB Black Edition
PSU - SilverStone Olympia 1000Watt
RAM - Patriot Extreme Viper 3x2GB 6GB DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24
DVD/Blu-ray - ANY drive, get cheapest.

Those are my recommendations, can't go wrong with them.
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Okay, I checked out 3 companies RAM, G.Skill, Mushkin, Patriot:

G.Skill: 7-7-7-20
Patriot: 9-9-9-24
Mushkin: 6-6-6-18

Wouldn't that make Mushkin's RAM better, seeing as how it has a lower CL?
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Okay, I checked out 3 companies RAM, G.Skill, Mushkin, Patriot:

G.Skill: 7-7-7-20
Patriot: 9-9-9-24
Mushkin: 6-6-6-18

Wouldn't that make Mushkin's RAM better, seeing as how it has a lower CL?
Not necessarily, sometimes looser timings at a faster speed can beat time tight timings at a slower speed
Soo....
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Okay, I checked out 3 companies RAM, G.Skill, Mushkin, Patriot:

G.Skill: 7-7-7-20
Patriot: 9-9-9-24
Mushkin: 6-6-6-18

Wouldn't that make Mushkin's RAM better, seeing as how it has a lower CL?
Depends on the speeds, sometimes higher speed but looser timings are better. What site were you looking at thou? On NCIX and newegg there are only 3 triple channel 6GB kits in stock, and they are all the same speed/timings.
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Depends on the speeds, sometimes higher speed but looser timings are better. What site were you looking at thou? On NCIX and newegg there are only 3 triple channel 6GB kits in stock, and they are all the same speed/timings.
Well, you link to Patriot's RAM on the NCIX web site. There are many sites -- not NCIX -- that sell G.Skill at 7-7-7-20; Mushkin's site lists 6-6-6-18.
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Well, you link to Patriot's RAM on the NCIX web site. There are many sites -- not NCIX -- that sell G.Skill at 7-7-7-20; Mushkin's site lists 6-6-6-18.
Just checked out Mushkins website, yes they make a 7-8-7-20 kit at PC3-12800 and a 6-6-6-18 kit at PC3-10666. Most of the time the higher speed is gonna win out/beat the lower speed but higher timings. Timings are not the be all end all, speed is also major factor, usually more so then timings.

I'd try and get a Triple Channel PC3-12800 kit with 7 or 8 timings such as XP3-12800 DDR3 - Mushkin Enhanced. In this case the higher speed with slightly looser timings is gonna beat out the tighter but lower speed ram.

Only reason I mentioned NCIX and newegg is because they are the major online storefronts, they are good to see what is available and what is not at a quick glance, which is what I did.

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