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Old November 22, 2008, 10:51 PM
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Geokilla: I just don't like .5 think, I'd rather do things in wholes not half. I think the E7200 should be able to get to 3.6GHz.

1Tanker: I think the board should do 400 FSB, but I'm thinking the XIgmatek HDT-RS1283 will be sufficent enough to keep the processor cool. I'm a little concerned wit the north bridge so I might pick up a 40mm fan for it.

I still need to do more research on the Biostar board.
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Old November 22, 2008, 10:56 PM
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I just checked Direct Canada and the E7300 is cheaper by $9 than the E7200. I think that makes my decision for me. I'm going to get the E7300. No to do some research.
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Old November 27, 2008, 02:28 AM
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Looks like my $600 budget got slashed down to a $450 budget due to Christmas and stuff.

This is what I came up. I was going to go with the Biostar board but I don't like the lack of control over the DRAM Frequencies and lets face it I know the Gigabyte boards and am use to their memory multipliers. So this is what I have come up with.

Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200 - $92.99
Gigabyte EP43-DS3L - $108.36
Mushkin XP-PC2-8000 Redline 4GB - $73.97
Xigmatek HDT-RS1283 - $41.04
Xigmatek ACK-I7751 - $9.72
LG GH22NS30 Black DVD+RW 22X8X16 SATA - $25.99
Corsair VX550 - $60.00 - Friend
Total: $412.07

I'll be using my 9600GT, my Seagate 250GB SATA2 and CM690 w/ 4x120mm fans.

My intended goal is this, CPU: 3.6GHz (333x11) @ 1.30v RAM: DDR2-999 (333x3) @ 2.0v

Do you guys think this is attainable?

If anyone has either a Gigabyte P43 or a P45 board can you tell me if 3x Memory Multi is listed. I would assume so since I believe it was on the P35 boards.
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Old November 27, 2008, 04:01 AM
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Looks like my $600 budget got slashed down to a $450 budget due to Christmas and stuff.

This is what I came up. I was going to go with the Biostar board but I don't like the lack of control over the DRAM Frequencies and lets face it I know the Gigabyte boards and am use to their memory multipliers. So this is what I have come up with.

Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200 - $92.99
Gigabyte EP43-DS3L - $108.36
Mushkin XP-PC2-8000 Redline 4GB - $73.97
Xigmatek HDT-RS1283 - $41.04
Xigmatek ACK-I7751 - $9.72
LG GH22NS30 Black DVD+RW 22X8X16 SATA - $25.99
Corsair VX550 - $60.00 - Friend
Total: $412.07

I'll be using my 9600GT, my Seagate 250GB SATA2 and CM690 w/ 4x120mm fans.

My intended goal is this, CPU: 3.6GHz (333x11) @ 1.30v RAM: DDR2-999 (333x3) @ 2.0v

Do you guys think this is attainable?

If anyone has either a Gigabyte P43 or a P45 board can you tell me if 3x Memory Multi is listed. I would assume so since I believe it was on the P35 boards.
I think your goning to need to pump more than 1.3v into the CPU, but yes other than that it looks very easily attainable. Looks like a great build for the budget your stuck under.
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Old November 27, 2008, 04:07 AM
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Any board you get is going to be the EXACT same with control of memory dividers. The difference with the Biostar board is that it doesn't show 1:1, 2:3, 5:6 it simply shows the speed of the memory in reference to the divider.

The only way your going to get complete control of memory dividers vs fsb is going with a nvidia chipset.
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Old November 27, 2008, 02:30 PM
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Once again, I say use the E7200 + DDR 800 RAM. Also, you don't need that retention bracket for such a mild overclock. I'm using push pins on my Vendetta 2, and it doesn't make it past 50C under 95% F@H load. If I remember correctly, stressing it with OCCT never pushed the temperatures pass 55C.

Unless you get really lucky, I think you'll need more than 1.3Vcore as well to achieve 3.6Ghz.
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Old November 27, 2008, 06:32 PM
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enaberif: I remember my old Gigabye GA-P35-DS3L had more memory multiplier options than what I see the Biostar board offers. IIRC the GA-P35-DS3L had x2/x2.4/x2.5/x3 and more. The Biostar board just has Auto (Default) /DDR2 533MHz /DDR2 638MHz / DDR2 667MHz / DDR2 800MHz / DDR2 851MHz / DDR2 886MHz / DDR2 1066MHz. The closest one is 1066MHz and if I leave it on auto it will do a 1:1 ratio. Atleast with the Gigabyte board if I run it a 333x a 3 mem multi I can get 999 which is closet to stock settings.

geokilla: The E7200 is $145.00 that's $52 more if if I dropped down to DDR-800 memory it's only going to save me about $10 on the memory. That still puts me over budget. As for the retenion bracket. For me it's a must. I loath the push pin design. I know I will probably have to run a 1.36 vcore.
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Old November 27, 2008, 09:25 PM
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enaberif: I remember my old Gigabye GA-P35-DS3L had more memory multiplier options than what I see the Biostar board offers. IIRC the GA-P35-DS3L had x2/x2.4/x2.5/x3 and more. The Biostar board just has Auto (Default) /DDR2 533MHz /DDR2 638MHz / DDR2 667MHz / DDR2 800MHz / DDR2 851MHz / DDR2 886MHz / DDR2 1066MHz. The closest one is 1066MHz and if I leave it on auto it will do a 1:1 ratio. Atleast with the Gigabyte board if I run it a 333x a 3 mem multi I can get 999 which is closet to stock settings.

geokilla: The E7200 is $145.00 that's $52 more if if I dropped down to DDR-800 memory it's only going to save me about $10 on the memory. That still puts me over budget. As for the retenion bracket. For me it's a must. I loath the push pin design. I know I will probably have to run a 1.36 vcore.
I think what enaberif is saying is that the #s you're seeing there are actually the clockspeed and will move up and down with the FSB. I don't know for sure if that's how it works on the Biostar, but it's how the bios on the P5Q works. Rather than showing you the multipliers, they show you the multiplierXFSB to give you memory clockspeed.
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Old November 27, 2008, 09:31 PM
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Steve: If that is the case and I wanted to run a FSB @ 333MHz, for the FSB on the Biostar board I would have to select 1333 for the FSB setting and then for the Memory speed would I select DDR2 886MHz and it should go to 999MHz. But my question is in the manual all I see are those memory settings. I don't see where it asks me to select a divider? I guess I can't wrap my head around how the board is to know that I wan to run the memory @ 999MHz
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Old November 27, 2008, 09:44 PM
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Where you see the memory speed is where you set the divider. They've actually provided more than the normal 3 or 4 (667,800,1066). When you input a higher FSB into bios, those #s will go up accordingly and you'll be selecting the actual memory clockspeed that it's showing in that field.

Edit: I think I know where you are getting confused... you're used to seeing a field where you set the divider, and then a separate indication in bios will show you actual speed.... with this bios there is no separate indication... what you see is what you get. :)
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