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Zayxic November 21, 2008 01:29 PM

$800 Budget Gaming Build
 
Hi all! Was lurking for a while but finally decided to make my first post! :biggrin: I'm planning on building a gaming computer this coming month or so, hope I can get some advice from all you experts. Here we go:

1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.
Mostly light gaming with the usual word processing, internet surfing, instant messaging and HD movies. I do plan on plugging this into a 32 - 40" LCD TV. Gaming mostly just consists of Spore and Warcraft 3 so far.
2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread
I'm looking at spending no more than $800 tax in. That being said, I do plan on waiting out and hoping for prices to drop. I do know about the new Intel processors coming out around Jan 18, so was wondering how that's going to affect prices. My budget is +/- $50 at most, tuition sucks...
3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.
:canadianwave:
4. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc, etc, etc, you get the picture.
I don't have any big preferences, but I have had ASUS mobo's that have worked great for me in the past. I'd just like whatever is good, best bang/buck and good customer service.
5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.
I have already grabbed a pair of Corsair ram thus far.
Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X4096-6400C5 4GB DDR2 2X2GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800
NCIX.com - Buy Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X4096-6400C5 4GB DDR2 2X2GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 CL 5-5-5-18 240PIN Memory Kit - TWIN2X4096-6400C5 In Canada.
6. IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads.
Yes I have done my research but I am still a novice to current technology.
7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.
No OCing is currently planned.
8. WHEN do you plan to build it?
Timeline as mentioned above is sometime end of December to early 2009. I'm just waitng for prices to drop back down... Our dollar is taking quite the beating.
So as to the parts I'm currently looking at:

MOBO: ASUS P5Q ATX LGA775 P45 ($146)
NCIX.com - Buy ASUS P5Q ATX LGA775 P45 DDR2 PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 3PCI SATA2 Sound GBLAN 1394 Motherboard - P5Q In Canada.

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E7300 ($146)
NCIX.com - Buy Intel Core 2 Duo E7300 Dual Core Processor LGA775 2.66GHZ 1066FSB 3MB Retail Box - BX80571E7300 In Canada.

RAM: Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X4096-6400C5 4GB ($65 - $30 MIR)
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?affiliateid=4352418&sku=25228&promoid=10 29

VID: HIS Radeon 4670 ICEQ3 750MHZ 512MB GDDR3 ($110 - $10 MIR)
NCIX.com - Buy HIS Radeon 4670 ICEQ3 750MHZ 512MB GDDR3 2XDVI HDTV Out Video Card - H467QS512P In Canada.

HD: Seagate or WD 1TB... Which one is better? ($130ish)


CASE: Thermaltake ARMOR+ MX Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($129)
NCIX.com - Buy Thermaltake ARMOR+ MX Black ATX Mid Tower Case 5X5.25 1X3.5 4X3.5INT No PS W/ Front USB eSATA Audio - VH8000BWS In Canada.

PSU: Mushkin HP-550 550W ATX 12V 24PIN ($95 - $15 MIR)
NCIX.com - Buy Mushkin HP-550 550W ATX 12V 24PIN SLI Ready ATX Power Supply 120MM Fan - 550200 In Canada.

DVD-R/W: Something $30ish that's decent? ($30ish)

SUB: $851
MIR: $55
TOTAL: $796~

As you can see I'm at $800 before tax. Hopefully going to see prices drop for me to grab parts $800 after tax. Prices were taken from PriceCanada and I'll pricematch accordingly as deals come along. The Video card, I'm just looking for best bang for my money and it has to be quiet to an extent. As I'm lazy I prob will stick to stock cooling.

So, what do you guys think? Thanks in advance for all your help. :help:

geokilla November 21, 2008 01:49 PM

Here's a few changes I'd suggest:

Mobo: Gigabyte EP43-DS3L
CPU: Intel E7200
Graphic: ASUS 8800GS for $44AR
HD: Seagate or WD 640GB. If you go WD, get the Black Series.
PSU: OCZ StealthXStream 500W. I use this for my sis computer's and it's been great.
DVD: Samsung SH-S223F

You should come in at well under $800. Use the remaining money for school :). And I suggest you buy now. Hardware prices have been slowly increasing, and at this rate, I think hardware prices will keep on going up.

Also, you said you already have RAM, so why are you looking at another set of RAM?

All parts can be found at the weekly specials from NCIX. Don't forget to price match to get the best deals.

GregH November 21, 2008 02:07 PM

Take a look at the Coolermaster 690 case too - very nice case that'll save you $50 or so that can go towards a nicer gfx card

CanadaRox November 21, 2008 02:48 PM

I'm not sure if those prices are Price Matched or just sale prices. But be sure to check out Shopbot.ca and/or PriceCanada.ca and price match at NCIX so you can save a few bucks. I'd also recommend getting a cheaper case and putting the savings to the GPU. Nearly everything I've heard about Thermaltake is bad, so I'd avoid them. If you have no plans on overclocking, you could probably go a bit cheaper on the motherboard as well, but I'd strongly recommend keeping that one and getting a decent heatsink and overclocking it as it will give you a very substantial, and free, boost in performance.

Chilly November 21, 2008 04:03 PM

Samsung Black DVD+RW SATA
Muskin Redline PC2-8500 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-1066 CL5-5-5-15
HIS Radeon HD 4670 625MHZ 512MB 2.000GHZ GDDR3
Antec Three Hundred Mini Tower Gaming Case
Corsair TX750W 750W
Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 Dual Core 2.53GHZ 1066FSB 3MB
Samsung SpinPoint F1 640GB 7200RPM 16MB
ASUS P5Q Pro ATX LGA775 P45

Total : $757.49

Shipping: $0.00 (Free Shipping due to the P5Q Pro)
Shipping Insurance: $22.74
Subtotal:
$780.63
No PST - Outside BC residents: $0.00
GST(5%): $39.03
YOUR TOTAL:
$819.66

Mail In Rebates - $55

Total AFTER MIR's - $764.66

I suggest spending the extra money on the GPU thou and get a 4830 instead of a 4670, if you were to get this one;

NCIX.com - Buy Powercolor Radeon HD 4830 575MHZ 512MB 1.8GHZ GDDR3 HDMI DVI TV-OUT PCI-E Video Card - AX4830 512MD3-H In Canada.

Total : $802.89

Shipping: $0.00 (Free Shipping due to the P5Q Pro)
Shipping Insurance: $24.09
Subtotal:
$826.98
No PST - Outside BC residents: $0.00
GST(5%): $41.35
YOUR TOTAL:
$868.33

Mail In Rebates - $55

Total AFTER MIR's - $813.33

matsta31 November 21, 2008 06:16 PM

nice one chilly.

750W is overkill, but it is cheap. 300 is a nice little case.

The e7200 with not much tweaking and another heatsink, you could get it quite easily to E8400 level.

For the GPU, I never played Warcraft 3 so I dont know what you need.

CactusJoe November 21, 2008 07:45 PM

Warcraft 3 is a joke. I mean, its a great game. I totally like DOTA. But you don't need much to play it.
I was using a p4 3.0 ghz 1g ram 7600gs video card and it was running as smooth as it can.

So don't worry. With this build, im sure you will be able run warcraft 3 at least 8 times.. filling a game with 1 computer is nice.. xD

Silvgearx November 21, 2008 08:11 PM

if you give us specs/size of your monitor :whistle:, we can help you choose a good $ ratio GPU :haha:

Zayxic November 21, 2008 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geokilla (Post 115884)
Here's a few changes I'd suggest:

Mobo: Gigabyte EP43-DS3L
CPU: Intel E7200
Graphic: ASUS 8800GS for $44AR
HD: Seagate or WD 640GB. If you go WD, get the Black Series.
PSU: OCZ StealthXStream 500W. I use this for my sis computer's and it's been great.
DVD: Samsung SH-S223F

You should come in at well under $800. Use the remaining money for school :). And I suggest you buy now. Hardware prices have been slowly increasing, and at this rate, I think hardware prices will keep on going up.

Also, you said you already have RAM, so why are you looking at another set of RAM?

All parts can be found at the weekly specials from NCIX. Don't forget to price match to get the best deals.

I was looking at the EP45-DS3L, any major differences between that and EP43? (I listed the ram again to stick that into the price calculation :biggrin:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregH (Post 115891)
Take a look at the Coolermaster 690 case too - very nice case that'll save you $50 or so that can go towards a nicer gfx card

Thanks, I'll keep the case in mind when I go look at them in person before I make my final decision. :thumb:

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanadaRox (Post 115907)
I'm not sure if those prices are Price Matched or just sale prices. But be sure to check out Shopbot.ca and/or PriceCanada.ca and price match at NCIX so you can save a few bucks. I'd also recommend getting a cheaper case and putting the savings to the GPU. Nearly everything I've heard about Thermaltake is bad, so I'd avoid them. If you have no plans on overclocking, you could probably go a bit cheaper on the motherboard as well, but I'd strongly recommend keeping that one and getting a decent heatsink and overclocking it as it will give you a very substantial, and free, boost in performance.

I'm using PriceCanada and Shopbot to look at prices, and will be pricematching with NCIX if need be. =) My bro was telling me to grab a heatsink so I could OC the CPU, so I'll see how that goes and I may.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chilly (Post 115947)
Samsung Black DVD+RW SATA
Muskin Redline PC2-8500 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-1066 CL5-5-5-15
HIS Radeon HD 4670 625MHZ 512MB 2.000GHZ GDDR3
Antec Three Hundred Mini Tower Gaming Case
Corsair TX750W 750W
Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 Dual Core 2.53GHZ 1066FSB 3MB
Samsung SpinPoint F1 640GB 7200RPM 16MB
ASUS P5Q Pro ATX LGA775 P45

Total : $757.49

Shipping: $0.00 (Free Shipping due to the P5Q Pro)
Shipping Insurance: $22.74
Subtotal:
$780.63
No PST - Outside BC residents: $0.00
GST(5%): $39.03
YOUR TOTAL:
$819.66

Mail In Rebates - $55

Total AFTER MIR's - $764.66

I suggest spending the extra money on the GPU thou and get a 4830 instead of a 4670, if you were to get this one;

NCIX.com - Buy Powercolor Radeon HD 4830 575MHZ 512MB 1.8GHZ GDDR3 HDMI DVI TV-OUT PCI-E Video Card - AX4830 512MD3-H In Canada.

Total : $802.89

Shipping: $0.00 (Free Shipping due to the P5Q Pro)
Shipping Insurance: $24.09
Subtotal:
$826.98
No PST - Outside BC residents: $0.00
GST(5%): $41.35
YOUR TOTAL:
$868.33

Mail In Rebates - $55

Total AFTER MIR's - $813.33

I've been reading some disappointing things about the Samsung spinpoint HD. Are the issues fixed and worth taking a look? I've never had any experience with or heard of Powercolor until recently. How are they? As well I'm looking for a quieter video card if I can, how's this one on sound?

Quote:

Originally Posted by matsta31 (Post 116001)
nice one chilly.

750W is overkill, but it is cheap. 300 is a nice little case.

The e7200 with not much tweaking and another heatsink, you could get it quite easily to E8400 level.

For the GPU, I never played Warcraft 3 so I dont know what you need.

Yeah, I thought 500W would be enough haha. I did see the 750W go on sale but thought that was way to much. As mentioned above I may OC and will keep it in mind. ;)


Quote:

Originally Posted by CactusJoe (Post 116036)
Warcraft 3 is a joke. I mean, its a great game. I totally like DOTA. But you don't need much to play it.
I was using a p4 3.0 ghz 1g ram 7600gs video card and it was running as smooth as it can.

So don't worry. With this build, im sure you will be able run warcraft 3 at least 8 times.. filling a game with 1 computer is nice.. xD

I know warcraft 3 isn't very demanding haha, which is kind of why I don't want to spend too much on a GPU unnecessarily. =)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5ILVgeARX (Post 116043)
if you give us specs/size of your monitor :whistle:, we can help you choose a good $ ratio GPU :haha:

Currently I have a 22" LCD, but will be using a 32" or 40" LCD TV in the future once I get the money for it haha.

Thanks everyone for their help so far! Really appreciate it.

BALISTX November 21, 2008 08:45 PM

Regarding the Gigabyte EP43-DS3L and EP45-DS3L, the only difference is memory speed. The P45-DS3L supports up to 1333 and the P43-DS3L supports up to 1200


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