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Old November 16, 2008, 11:54 AM
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Well, here is what I want to build, blanks will have "?" beside them:

CPU: Intel Core i7 965
Cooling Fan: ?
Thermal Paste: Arctic Silver 5
Motherboard: ?
DDR3 RAM: ?
Soundcard: Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro Series (PCIe)
GPU: ATi 4870 X2 GDDR5 (Don't know which company makes the best one)
Mid or Full Tower: ?
PSU: ? (I want something that is CrossFire/SLI ready)
HDD: ?
DVD: ?
Monitor: 24-inch Samsung, 2ms (I forget the model name/number)

May have to sell off my laptop, to pad out the $3500-$4000 -- I would shell out up to $4500 if I could sell my laptop -- to build the above, but so be it, the laptop is just a holdover until I get the desktop.

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Old November 16, 2008, 03:09 PM
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Well, here is what I want to build, blanks will have "?" beside them:

CPU: Intel Core i7 965 1200
Cooling Fan: Apogee GtZ $65
Thermal Paste: MX-2 $5
Motherboard: Asus p6T deluxe = $350
DDR3 RAM: g.skill 1333 7-7-7-20 6gb =$300
Soundcard: Auzen prelude $146
GPU: ATi 4870 X2 GDDR5 Sapphire $570
Mid or Full Tower: Antec 1200 $185
PSU: Corsair hx1000W = $250
HDD: 2* 640gb WD blacks = $170
DVD: Lg h20l bluray read/Hd dvd read = $120
Ek GPU block $160
MCR320 * 2 = $100
MCP 655 pump with ek top = $120
Barbs = $8 dollars
swiftech Reservoir = $25
Primochill tubing = $15

$3789

May have to sell off my laptop, to pad out the $3500-$4000 -- I would shell out up to $4500 if I could sell my laptop -- to build the above, but so be it, the laptop is just a holdover until I get the desktop.
The amount of heat in the 4870 x2, air is not enough. The 965 is also a heat monster. SInce you are getting a 1200 dollar processor and a top of the line graphics card, there is no reason you should not go water(aside from the 6 month maintenance).
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Old November 16, 2008, 03:25 PM
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I am still going with the following soundcard -- Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro Series (PCIe) -- as Creative has finally learned its lesson, Auzen's X-Fi is still not perfect either....

Watercooling is not an option for me, I don't have the patience to learn a new cooling method.

DVD I am looking for a burner, Blu-ray right now is not important enough right now, however I may change my mind by December...but if I were to go Blu-ray it would have to be a multi-drive burner.

That was fast with the memory, all the previous DDR3 timings were 9-9-9-20, when did it go down to 7-7-7-20...or is g.skill the only one to have done that -- on a side note: I've never heard of g.skill.

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Old November 16, 2008, 03:45 PM
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Ek GPU block $160
MCR320 * 2 = $100
MCP 655 pump with ek top = $120
Barbs = $8 dollars
swiftech Reservoir = $25
Primochill tubing = $15
Does 'MCR320 * 2 = $100' mean $50 each or $100 each, because if I drop your cooling method out, I get close to being able to get a second 4870 X2 to run in Crossfire..?!
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Old November 16, 2008, 04:21 PM
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Does 'MCR320 * 2 = $100' mean $50 each or $100 each, because if I drop your cooling method out, I get close to being able to get a second 4870 X2 to run in Crossfire..?!
They are $50 each.

Get a True 120 or true Black for your cooling with fan mounts of course.
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Old November 16, 2008, 05:00 PM
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All prices ~approximate. Get NCIX Premier Partner and they'll be cheaper, but I can't tell you the PP price. Especially since you want to make such a large order, you'll get free shipping over $3000 and you'll get the nice discounts.


Motherboard: I would say EVGA's X58 board, but I don't know when it's coming out.

DDR3: g.skill F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ 6GB DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 triple kit ~$300

Case: Several good choices:
Tagan Black Pearl ~$300
Lian Li PC-201B ~$300
Lian Li PC-P60 ~$280
Cooler Master HAF-932 ~$155
Cooler Master Cosmos / Stacker (many variations of these, find out which suits you)
PSU: Depends on your GPU. If you only get one 4870x2, then 550W-600W will suffice. If two, 750W-850W. These:
Corsair 620HX (modular) ~$155
Corsair 650TX (single 12V rail, which I prefer) ~$100
OCZ EliteXStream 800W (again, single 12V) ~$145
Antec Truepower Quattro 850W (modular) ~$220
HDD: Two Caviar Black 640GB drives in RAID-0, the only SATA drives that can beat this setup are Velociraptors or SSDs, both at a much greater cost/GB. Or get 4 for RAID-1+0 for fault tolerance.

DVD: Whatever is on sale at NCIX. Generally, these are fine, but I'd do a quick google for reviews/testing to make sure the drive isn't a POS.

Cooling: Not sure here. I would want to go water cooling, but I don't know which block is the best for LGA1366. None have been made specifically for it, and I don't know which ones have mounting kits available. If you absolutely need something now and want air cooling, I'd say Noctua's NH-U12P with the MT-1366 conversion kit.

Also grab a few case fans, can't go wrong with Noctua P12s. I have a few Ultra Kaze 120x38mm 1000RPM; they're almost half the price, but you can't really run them at anything below 100% (so if you want to put them on a fan controller, make sure the fan controller isn't one that limits you to less than 100%).
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I don't have a credit card, so online purchases are useless...everything will have to be bought locally; just wish I could find a store that would give me amazing deals if I bought everything there!

I am considering at least a 1TB HDD, however I may go smaller...but I do not do RAID at all.
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Old November 16, 2008, 06:23 PM
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-Seriously, I think you're a little too eager to spend money.
-A second 4870X2 tends to be wasted on anything less than a 30" monitor.
-It's fine if you don't want to go watercooling, but it's entirely possible that your processor is going to hit a thermal limit before you hit an overclocking limit. Which would make it a little pointless to get a 965 processor.
-Consider a different thermal paste. AS5 is getting a little old in the tooth, and while results vary, it's not uncommon to get an extra degree or two from some of the newer pastes. Arctic Cooling MX-2 is a popular one, and fairly available these days, I think.
-If you want to get an add-in sound card, you might consider something other than a Creative product. Auzentech's Prelude card uses the same X-FI chipset, but they have a much better track record on drivers and quality, while I believe Asus' Xonar series is a little cheaper and seems to have a good track record as well. The incoming i7 motherboards seem to be pretty good about making a PCI slot available
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I don't have a credit card, so online purchases are useless...everything will have to be bought locally; just wish I could find a store that would give me amazing deals if I bought everything there!

I am considering at least a 1TB HDD, however I may go smaller...but I do not do RAID at all.
Well, in that case go for either the Caviar Black 640GB or 1TB, both very fast. If you won't RAID, there's also the Velociraptor 300GB, but that's not even close to the 1TB you wanted.

Buy from NCIX. They have Interac, bank payments, PayPal, credit card, money order, you name it. The bonus of buying from them is that you can get a far better warranty service and lower prices if you're a Premier Partner, you'll get free shipping on such a large order, and you only have to pay 5% GST instead of PST and GST when you buy local. It's worth it.
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I don't have a credit card, so online purchases are useless...everything will have to be bought locally; just wish I could find a store that would give me amazing deals if I bought everything there!

I am considering at least a 1TB HDD, however I may go smaller...but I do not do RAID at all.

with NCIX you can do a bank transfer. you also get NCIX points which later be used for little gadgets and free shipping for smaller orders
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