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Old November 8, 2008, 10:58 AM
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First of all, thank you for your help and support trought the entire process of selecting the pieces.

Heres my what i am proposing for my Final rig

Budget : 500$

Overclocking : Yes! or no? plz help :)

I believe everything is compatible, but im not 100% sure.

Note : the computer will be used for "light" gaming ( Far cry2, Cod 4, Wow, Sc2, Fallout3, fable 2, gears of war2, halo2 ), work and school.
Note : I already have a monitor, HDD, Dvd player


Tower - 53,17$ - Antec Three Hundred ATX Computer Case - THREE HUNDRED - Buy.com

Power Supply - 54,04$ - Buy Corsair CMPSU-400CX 400CX 400W ATX 12V 30A Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan

or

Power supply - 59.99$ - NCIX.com - Buy Corsair VX450 450W ATX 12V 33A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan - CMPSU-450VX In Canada.

Enought juice to OC? or is even worth to OC?


Video Card - 44,99$ - ASUS GeForce 8800GS 550MHZ 384MB 1.6GHZ DDR3 Dual DVI-I HDTV Out DIRECTX10 PCI-E Video Card - DirectCanada

Great price but maybe I should choose another one in SLI since the motherboard is sli?

Mother Board - 139,99$ after mail-in rebate - NCIX.com - Buy XFX Nforce 750A SLI Socket AM2+ ATX 2XPCI-E16 2PCI-E1 3PCI SATA HDMI Video Sound GBLAN Motherboard - MDA72P7509 In Canada.

Memory 4Gb - 2x29.99$ - NCIX.com - Buy Crucial Rendition 2GB 1X2GB PC2-5300 DDR2-667 240PIN DIMM Memory - RM25664AA667 In Canada.

Processor - 112,31$ - http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10360BD9622&vpn=ADX6000CZBOX&manufacture=AMD

I heard it would be better to get a E2160+ for OCing since 6000+ are not "stable" enought.

Question: must I use a 64 bits version of windows with this processor?
I was told that 64b windows are better for games is that true?


Subtotal :
212,18$ w/o processor and motherboard
464.48$ with processor and motherboard


Is there a way to decrease the motherboard/processor cost but keep a good quality/speed/sli? (AMD 5000+ 2.6GHZ, 1Mb cache is around 68$, does that make surch a big difference? Drop on processor, Up on videocard?)


I'll edit if i find better prices

I will be buying from Directcanada or Ncix with the pricematch option

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Old November 8, 2008, 12:13 PM
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If your planing on overclocking, you would probably be much better off going with Intel.

Mother Board - 149.99 - EVGA Nforce 750I SLI LGA775 ATX DDR2 2PCI-E16 1PCI-E1 2PCI SATA RAID Sound GBLAN Motherboard

CPU - $105.98 - Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200 Dual Core Processor LGA775 2.5GHZ 800FSB 2MB Retail Box

The CPU Can be further pricematched down to $99.49 at Newegg.ca

You might want to invest in some better ram as well, thats probably going to hold you back on Oc'ing, as well as a good aftermarket HSF.

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Question: must I use a 64 bits version of windows with this processor?
I was told that 64b windows are better for games is that true?
No, you do not have to use an x64 version of windows with either of those processors.

The benefit to x64 is slight increase in performance, and the ability to properly address 4GB+ of Ram.
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Old November 8, 2008, 08:19 PM
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Any suggestions are highly welcome.

I still dont know if its better to OC an interl CPU or to simply use an amd x64 processor. Both are almost the same price and after ocing they are about the same power and speed...

I want a computer that will last some time and the will smoothly run the games i pointed out.

Im still a kindaewb ^^ help me out guys :)

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Old November 8, 2008, 08:23 PM
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Spend the extra $75 and get an E8400.....really,,why dick around for an extra $75.00
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Old November 8, 2008, 11:24 PM
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I still dont know if its better to OC an interl CPU or to simply use an amd x64 processor. Both are almost the same price and after ocing they are about the same power and speed...
Just so you know, Intel supports 64bit too...

However, I'd ditch the SLI-motherboard. They have various issues which you might not want to have to deal with. Get a Intel P43 or P45 chipset based motherboard and you'll be good to go. Plus SLI'ing 8800GS is kinda silly as you'd be better off buying a single faster card when the time comes that you want more performance.

Go with the Corsair 450W PSU and get better RAM. At least DDR2-800 (DDR2-1000/1066 would be better though) and to save money, 2GB would be fine. If you must go with 4GB, get a 2x2GB kit as it means less stress on the motherboard's chipset.

If you do go the Intel route, I'd seriously consider the E5200 at least or the E7200. The E2160 is an old 65nm chip with only 1MB L2 cache.

Oh and if your OC'ing, definitely get an aftermarket heatsink.

Motherboard: NCIX.com - Gigabyte EP43-DS3L
CPU 1: NCIX.com - Intel Core 2 Duo E7200
CPU 2: Newegg.ca - Intel Pentium E5200
Heatsink: BestDirect.ca - Xigmatek HDT-S1283

Possible RAM: Newegg.ca - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)

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Old November 8, 2008, 11:54 PM
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However, I'd ditch the SLI-motherboard. They have various issues which you might not want to have to deal with.
Please, list these issues and I'll confirm whether or not they're a concern on my MOBO.
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Mainly memory compatibility and overall stability. NVIDIA chipsets don't exactly have the greatest track record (the Intel ones). Their AMD chipsets were pretty good though.

I'm not sure if the 750i has as many issues but the 650i and 680i did.

Also since he's on a $500 budget, spending $150 on a motherboard seems a bit much when you could get something for closer to $100 and put that $50 towards something else which would have more benefit.
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agreed with jdrom. SLI is ineficient at this point in time, and Far Cry 2 has issues with SLI anyways. It's better to get a single card rather than two.

Get a P5Q motherboard, perhaps the PRO or SE variant (I myself am running the SE), and chuck the extra money into your graphics card, getting maybe a 9800 at the very least.
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agreed with jdrom. SLI is ineficient at this point in time, and Far Cry 2 has issues with SLI anyways. It's better to get a single card rather than two.

Get a P5Q motherboard, perhaps the PRO or SE variant (I myself am running the SE), and chuck the extra money into your graphics card, getting maybe a 9800 at the very least.
I get the point but the Asus P5Q se is around 135$ according to ncix and directcanada which is about the same price as the sli motherboard...

I was thinking that maybe going for the XFX board with only 1 graphic card and a bit slower processor would be best.

the AMD 64 5000 + motherboard is about the same price than the OCing intel/pentium and around the same speed too. So maybe i can save and extra few bucks from the something else and get a sli video card. When the computer starts to be a little outdated, i can just install a 2nd video card and extra memory as JDrom proposed...
What do you think?

Tower - 53,17$ - Antec Three Hundred ATX Computer Case - THREE HUNDRED - Buy.com

Power supply - 59.99$ - NCIX.com - Buy Corsair VX450 450W ATX 12V 33A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan - CMPSU-450VX In Canada.

MotherBoard - $155.99 - Asus P5Q Pro Atx LGA775 P45 DDR2 2PCI-E16 Crossfire 3PCI-E1 2PCI SATA2 Sound Gblan Esata Motherboard

Memory - 53.66$ - Newegg.ca - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)

Processor - 99.49$ - Newegg.ca - Intel Pentium E5200 Wolfdale 2.5GHz 2MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops

That leaves me with 77.7$ for a graphic card and made me want to buy Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Quad Core Processor LGA775 Kentsfield 2.40GHZ 1066FSB 8MB Retail Box - DirectCanada that processor can be OCed to around 3.5 and the motherboard supports it well. But its expensive!!

I was thinking maybe that graphic card would be nice 130$ dont know if it can be OCed tho
Palit GeForce 9800GT Sonic 650MHZ 512MB 1.9GHZ GDDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I HDCP HDTV Out Video Card

With that card im 70$ over my budget w/o including shipping and taxes from ncix, neweggs and directcanada... if at least directcanada had price match or ncix had free shipping it would be nice

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Old November 10, 2008, 12:48 PM
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If you only plan on running one video card, you don't need to get the Asus P5Q. To help cut down on cost I would get this board. It is a great overclocker.

Gigabyte EP43-DS3L ATX LGA775 P43 FSB 1600 OC 1PCI-E 2PCI DDR2 SATA2 HD Sound GBLAN Motherboard - $91.30 after $15 MIR

The E5200 is a great CPU and with a 12x multi you could overclock that to 3.6 with no problem. Just get yourself a good HSF such as the Xigmatek HDT-S1283 - $34.56 and pick up the Xigmatek ACK-I7751 Crossbow Mounting Kit - $9.72 if you don't like the push pin style of mounting.

The link for the Asus 9800GT did not work so I'm not sure what the price is on it. But most I have see are around the $150-$160 mark. You can pick up the EVGA E-GEFORCE 9800GT 600MHZ 512MB 1.8GHZ 256BIT DDR3 Dual DVI-I HDCP HDTV Out Video Card - $124.99 after $15 MIR at Direct Canada.

If you include the Antec 300, the Corsair VX 450, the 4GB of the G.Skill and E5200 at the prices you quoted you are looking at a total of $526.88 before $30 worth of MIR and shipping and taxes.
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