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Old November 6, 2008, 05:01 PM
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Hello guys, I'm ms1max and I've been a long time reader but first time poster in these forums.
For my birthday I've been given a budget of around $400 to build a new pc with. I do however have some components which i can use from my old computer (Pentium D 805, dvd-rw drive, 80gb hd, case). I primarily use my computer for gaming, and would like to play some of the newer games at a reasonable level of settings. At the bottom are two builds i was thinking of; one with a new processor and the other with my pentium D (are p43 mobos compatible w/ pentium Ds?).

Useful Info: I primarily game on 1280X1024 resolution, saving up money for a better computer *is not* an option, ati / intel fan boy, don't mind overclocking, I'm on Windows XP Pro, *may* get vista, dislike using price match @ ncix, MIRs are not preferrable


Build 1:

Processor:
Pentium Dual Core 2160 1.8 Ghz $74.78
Intel Pentium Dual Core E2160 Dual Core Processor LGA775 1.8GHZ 800FSB 1MB Retail - DirectCanada

Motherboard:
Biostar TP43D2-A7 $91.26
Biostar TP43D2-A7 ATX LGA775 P43 DDR2 1PCI-EX 3PCI SATA2 HD Sound GBLAN CrossFireX Motherboard - DirectCanada

Memory:
Mushkin 996603 HP PC2-6400 $54.88
Mushkin 996603 HP PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL4-4-4-12 240PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory Kit - DirectCanada

Graphics Card:
HIS Radeon 4670 ICEQ3 $107.10
HIS Radeon 4670 ICEQ3 750MHZ 512MB GDDR3 2XDVI HDTV Out Video Card - DirectCanada

Power Supply:
Antec Earthwatts 430W $53.99
Antec Earthwatts 430W Power Supply ATX12V V2.0 20/24PIN Active PFC 80PLUS 80MM Fan - DirectCanada

Cooling:
Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer 4 $38.88
Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer 4 Heatpipe Heatsink AM2 LGA775 S754 S939 S940 W/120MM Fan - DirectCanada
Total: $419.89

Build 2:

Motherboard:
Biostar TP43D2-A7 $91.26
same link as above

Memory:
G.SKILL F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ $69.89
G.SKILL F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ PC2-8000 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-1000 CL5-5-5-15 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit - DirectCanada

Graphics Card:
HIS Radeon HD 4830 512mb $157.50
HIS Radeon HD 4830 575MHZ 512MB 1.8GHZ GDDR3 2XDVI TV-OUT PCI-E Video Card - DirectCanada

Power Supply:
Antec Earthwatts 430W $53.99
same link as above

Cooling:
Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer 4 $38.88
same link as above

Total: $411.52

Comments/Suggestions/Builds Welcome!
Thanks in advance!
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Old November 6, 2008, 05:14 PM
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Nice build. I just built my friend a build with similar performance and price.
I would reccomend saving up a bit extra money, and do the first build, but with HD 4830 instead.
Also i'm unsure how much half the cache would hurt in gaming, but for the extra 0.2 GHZ, for $5 less i would go for
Intel Celeron E1400 Dual Core Processor 2.0GHZ LGA775 512K L2 Cache 800FSB 65W Retail Box - DirectCanada
Also another $5 gets you :
Xigmatek HDT-S1283 Direct Touch 3 Heatpipe Heatsink AM2 LGA775 S754 S939 S940 W 120MM PWM Fan - DirectCanada
This is a pretty good cooler from the reviews.
What i'm trying to do is cut back a bit on a few components so you can get the better GPU, which ultimately matters more for gaming.
And also if you're willing to buy used, you can find some great deals here too.
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Old November 6, 2008, 05:41 PM
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That lack of cache will seriously hurt performance.

IMHO I wouldn't be using a PD anymore. Even AMD X2s are faster than those...

Anyways, I'd go for something like this:
NCIX.com - Buy NCIX Value Bundle Deal Intel E5200 Dual Core Wolfdale CPU Biostar G31 Motherboard -UNASSEMBLED - BIOSTARG31-E5200 In Canada.
Mushkin 996603 HP PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL4-4-4-12 240PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory Kit - DirectCanada
HIS Radeon HD 4830 575MHZ 512MB 1.8GHZ GDDR3 2XDVI TV-OUT PCI-E Video Card - DirectCanada
Antec Earthwatts 430W Power Supply ATX12V V2.0 20/24PIN Active PFC 80PLUS 80MM Fan - DirectCanada

Comes to $395.37 + shipping/tax.
Just order it all from NCIX and use Price Match, though I'd also check Price Canada just to make sure DirectCanada is the cheapest for those other parts. I don't know what you don't like PM'ing...
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Old November 6, 2008, 06:25 PM
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Is a 4830 going to provide any better performance than an 8800GT (s) class card? I know the OP is an ATI fan, but with those class cards showing up regularily on sale for around $100 I'd think the extra savings would allow for a bump in cpu (although the 5200 is what I'd be looking for in a budget class build).
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Old November 6, 2008, 06:55 PM
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@ kayen
wow, didn't realize the xigmatek heatsink was that inexpensive, thought they'd be like ~$50 or something. But inanycase i want the core contact freezer cuz it comes w/ a fan controller and tx-2

@ jdrom17

Well i tried to use it a week ago (first time), and it said that it would notify me after it validated it or something like that. Yet there still hasn't been anything to indicate that it's been validated.

@sswilson

I think the 4830 would, I read some reviews and some of the times it performs better. If you come across a 8800gt near the $100 mark could you send me the link? thanks
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Old November 7, 2008, 01:28 PM
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Never had any issues with Price Matching. They'll send you an email confirming or denying it usually the same day or the next day (business days of course).

If you don't get the email by chance, you can check your order status on NCIX.com and it'll say if it was accepted or not as well.
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Old November 7, 2008, 04:51 PM
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hey man, i was looking into a cheap 500 and under gaming pc too earlier. but everyone told me that it would probably be better save up and make a more solid gaming pc. if you can, why don't you wait till boxing day? or even till the holiday season starts to kick up. I hear many retailers are lowering their prices this holiday season to encourage people to spend more, instead of saving because of the recession
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Old November 7, 2008, 05:35 PM
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Believe it or not, i've been waiting for 2 years to upgrade...even though it's only $400. Think imma die if i wait any longer lol, although what you say is absolutely correct.
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Old November 7, 2008, 10:05 PM
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Same case as you, but i managed ot get a job luckily that payed well.
Anyways just one more month? Won't hurt lol.
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Is your old HD sata? If not you might want to "upgrade".

Instead of the HIS Radeon 4670 ICEQ3 $107.10 get one of these:

Powercolor Radeon HD 4670 750MHZ 1GB 1.7GHZ GDDR3 2XDVI TV-OUT HDTV PCI-E Video Card - DirectCanada

Powercolor Radeon HD 4670 750MHZ 1GB 1.7GHZ GDDR3 2XDVI TV-OUT HDTV PCI-E Video Card $125.93

Powercolor Radeon HD 4670 750MHZ 512MB 2.0GHZ GDDR3 2XDVI TV-OUT PCI-E Video Card - DirectCanada

Powercolor Radeon HD 4670 750MHZ 512MB 2.0GHZ GDDR3 2XDVI TV-OUT PCI-E Video Card $99.22


Also stay with Sunbeam Core Contact Freezer - Top 5 Intel & AMD Heatsinks on Frostytech
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