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Old October 28, 2008, 08:22 AM
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Not to sound to forward but you will not get a stable 3.6Ghz with the Q6600 on that cooler if any air cooler at all. I hit 3.4ghz On air but it wasn't not stable and in my experience the Q6600 jumps significantly in Voltage required and Temperature over 3.2Ghz which is nothing to sneeze at from a 2 year old quad core that only costs $200. I would put it at 3.0ghz maybe 3.2 and leave it there for stability and longevity as you said you were looking for.
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Joeperson: $2000 is what I mean by a lot. Of course there are things that I might be willing to spend more money on, It would be nice to keep it under $2000 though, $2200 is probably tops for me.

S_G: Although I appreciate the advice, spending $1200 for mobo, cpu, and ram alone for a 33% increase is not what I have in mind. On top of which this is new tech, and how reliable that is i'm not sure. Don't really care for being on the absolute bleeding edge at that cost, there are some compromises I would make, but the rest of my components for $800 seems like a bit of a squeeze, considering I'd like a 4870x2 and possibly another one in a couple years due to gaming. Damn, I wish I could afford it though. Also, I looked into that membership and I'm not sure I buy enough to make it worth it. Are the savings that significant?

sswilson: I'm not totally hellbent on getting 3.6 out of the q6600, just that with a new version of photoshop/design suite, as well as music production software taking more advantage of four cores, the high speed would be nice. Quad core is a must, and this is one of the components I would be willing to spend more on. Do you know much about the Q9XXX series and how well they OC? would they provide much of a benefit over the q6600?

miggs78: Thank you for the welcome sir, Calgary is certainly getting chilly...
Many thanks for compiling that list for me, it appears I can save a lot of money going with DC, though some of their prices seem to actually be higher than mem-ex, and I live right next to one so I wouldn't have to worry about the shipping. There seem to be lots of deals to take advantage of though so thanks again for the heads up. May just take your advice on the Q9450 if I can find a decent price...

cwestwell: Yes, this is just another reason why the q6600 is looking like less and less an attractive investment at the moment. Would like something that will be stable and cool at 3.4-3.6.

Thanks for all the great advice guys, this is a lot more than I was expecting.
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if you go with e8400 from ncix ,you can get free shipping on entire order and PM some items to save few more dollars..

edit: just seen"quad core is a must".
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Old October 28, 2008, 07:59 PM
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Since this is a photoshop rig, I would go with nvidia gpu as photoshop CS4 supports cuda. Thats why I just ordered an nvidia card instead of ATI.
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miggs78: Thank you for the welcome sir, Calgary is certainly getting chilly...
Many thanks for compiling that list for me, it appears I can save a lot of money going with DC, though some of their prices seem to actually be higher than mem-ex, and I live right next to one so I wouldn't have to worry about the shipping. There seem to be lots of deals to take advantage of though so thanks again for the heads up. May just take your advice on the Q9450 if I can find a decent price...
Heh logos we treat everybody at HWC special, and you're a Calgarian maaan!! heehaaww!!

As for DC, yea I was going to suggest to get some parts from mem-ex and some from DC, mix them up to save up what you can, just make it over $300 and under 100lbs, but I was a little surprised to see the whole order including the case not going over 100lbs.. nice. And yea I highly suggest changing that Antec 900, it can be a PITA to work tbh..

You also have another option, go for NCIX and pricematch almost whatever is cheaper, you might be able to save more, only issue is they might charge you baad shipping!. use http:/www.shopbot.ca or our own also Canadian Prices: Search. Compare. Buy. - Canadian Online Shopping Search and Comparison! for price matching.

Lastly, yea a descent price for the Q9450, and even if you have to pay $10 bucks more and get a Q9550, hek go for it that will be a worthy investment, that Q9550 is hek of a processor for sure..
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Change the RAM to DDR800 RAM. Those are more than enough and can easily clock to DDR900 speeds. You definitely don't need to get DDR1066 RAM since running FSB to RAM at a 1:1 ratio means 450FSB = DDR900. And since quad cores top out at around 450FSB, DDR900 RAM is enough.

Change the cooler to a OCZ Vendetta 2 or Xigmatek HDT-S1283.

Also, you may wanna purchase from Direct Canada like the others said, or from NCIX. And I'd stick with the Q6600 over the Q9450 or Q9550 just to keep the costs down. However, it will take a bit of luck for the Q6600 to hit 3.6Ghz.
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sswilson: I'm not totally hellbent on getting 3.6 out of the q6600, just that with a new version of photoshop/design suite, as well as music production software taking more advantage of four cores, the high speed would be nice. Quad core is a must, and this is one of the components I would be willing to spend more on. Do you know much about the Q9XXX series and how well they OC? would they provide much of a benefit over the q6600?
Unfortunately I don't have any experience with the newer models of quads, but I'm sure somebody here will be able to share their overclocking experiences, and a simple google search should garner some results for you. :)

Sounds like you've got a pretty good idea of what you are looking for, and why you want specific hardware... that's always a good starting point.
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Unfortunately I don't have any experience with the newer models of quads, but I'm sure somebody here will be able to share their overclocking experiences, and a simple google search should garner some results for you. :)

Sounds like you've got a pretty good idea of what you are looking for, and why you want specific hardware... that's always a good starting point.
Yea I agree with Steve, it is not often when someone already comes up with a very good first list of what parts he/she wants in a build, as per memory express's inventory you had the best you could, we just introduced online e-tailers and slight improved your list.

As for Overclocking experiences, if you want you could visit our Overclocking forums, they are multiple threads there on Quad Core overclocks really. I hope is Charlie sees this he can also comment since he has q9550s, and had them for couple months now..
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catnhat: I have definitely been enticed by the GTX 280's price, but it seems getting a decent motherboard for them basically balances the cost out. Is the increase in performance in photoshop that much higher?

miggs78: Thanks for all of these suggestions man! I can tell you've done this more than once... I feel like I'm going to end up a good chunk of cash. Much appreciated. Also, is the difference between the q9400 and 9450 that great? since mem-ex has the 9400 @ $340 or so and i've not been able to find that 9450 at anything less than $430.

geokilla: That is what I orginally planned to do, though memory express has a good deal on the mushkin redlines at 1066mhz for pretty much the same price as the 800mhz so I figured why not?
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Heh... I just ordered another set of the Ascents from NCIX using price match to the memory express price.... saved $20 over the NCIX price, and it'll be 20 more when I get the NCIX MIR back.... :)
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