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Old October 22, 2008, 09:13 PM
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Default Building a new comp (for gaming). Need some help!

Sup guys.
So after careful consideration of many HWC member's suggestions to build a new comp instead of just upgrading the GPU, i came up with a build that would exceed my needs.

I'm trying to grab a computer under $1000 before taxes. I came up with one, and i hope you can give me some positive/negative feedback and provide any changes if you may!
Main uses of this comp:
- Gaming (COD4, GW, WC3, CS:S, TF2. hoping to run any future games (DIII or Starcraft II well)
- Homework
- Watching videos (episodes of tv shows)
- Photoshop
- Web design

I don't need:
- Keyboard (G15 2nd Gen)
- Mouse (Razer Deathadder)
- Monitor (23" Acer viewed at 1680x1050)
- Speakers (crappy 2.1 - but works for my situation)


(Buying through NCIX):
GPU: XFX GeForce 9800GTX+ 738MHZ 512MB 2.2GHZ GDDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I HDCP HDTV Out Video Card
MB: ASUS P5Q Pro ATX LGA775 P45 DDR2 2PCI-E16 CrossFire 3PCI-E1 2PCI SATA2 Sound GBLAN eSATA Motherboard
RAM:Corsair XMS2 DHX TWIN2X4096-6400C4DHX 4GB DDR2 2X2GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 CL 4-4-4-12 240PIN Memory Kit
DVD: LG GH22NS30 Black DVD+RW 22X8X16 DVD-RW 22X6X16 DL 16X/12X 2MB SATA OEM
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Quad Core Processor LGA775 Kentsfield 2.40GHZ 1066FSB 8MB Retail Box
HD: Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 7200RPM 32MB Dual Proc SATA 3.5IN Hard Drive OEM 5YR MFR Warranty
HSF: Thermalright ULTRA-120 Extreme 6 Heatpipe Cooler LGA775 Heatsink *Fan Not Included*
PSU:Corsair TX750W 750W ATX 12V 60A 24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan

no idea of a case yet. give me some suggestions!

After price match before tax, it comes out to 925.04. After mail-in-rebates, which is about 85$, comes to 840.04.

I'm wondering if i should get a differnt CPU Cooler. TRUE 120 still the best air-based cooler?
Also, a different CPU? Maybe consider a 9550, but that might push my budget a bit.
What kind of OC will i get on this rig? (CPU and GPU)
Ram good enough?
What kind of extra 120MM fans should i get to compliment the TRUE120?
WD Caviar 500GB or that Seagate one for 60$?

Thanks HWC!


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Old October 22, 2008, 09:54 PM
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Can't comment on it too much but re:

- the HDD, I've heard that the 640GB drives are faster due to the platter density 320GB vs. 250GB. I use a WD6400AAKS and would highly recommend it. It seems to bench well ans is VERY quiet.
- the CPU, Last I heard the higher clocked dual cores are better for gaming. That could've changed since last I heard also your other uses may be more important than gaming to you.
- the PSU, 750W seems overkill for the hardware listed, but there's no harm in future-proofing.
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Old October 22, 2008, 10:20 PM
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ill consder grabbin the 640. it's only about 6 dollars more anyways might as well.
750W is cheaper than the 620HX equivalent. Dont know why, is there a big difference?
And yeah i heard gaming wise higher clocked duals will work. I'm hoping to be able to OC my CPU to about 3.0 or 3.1? possible with the TRUE120 + Noctua fans?

it wont bottleneck the GPU will it?
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Old October 22, 2008, 10:39 PM
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ill consder grabbin the 640. it's only about 6 dollars more anyways might as well.
750W is cheaper than the 620HX equivalent. Dont know why, is there a big difference?
And yeah i heard gaming wise higher clocked duals will work. I'm hoping to be able to OC my CPU to about 3.0 or 3.1? possible with the TRUE120 + Noctua fans?

it wont bottleneck the GPU will it?
I think you should be able to easily overclock the CPU to 3.0 or higher, and I don't think getting a Quad core is any *Worse* for gaming then getting a Core 2 Duo. But there currently aren't a lot of benefits to having a quad core over the Duo in regards to gaming. Although you can run other tasks while gaming. But if your running a lot of things at once there in a benefit, so o I think for your uses the Q6600 is a good choice.

-No it shouldn't Bottleneck the GPU so long as you overclock it.

-The 750W PSU is great, yes it is overkill for your setup, but I would get it because of its price and that it is a great PSU.

- Oh and get the 640, it is a great Harddrive, I'm sure most people around here will say the same.

- For case: Coolermaster CM 690 or Antec 900 would be my vote
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Old October 22, 2008, 10:51 PM
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There are some cheaper almost-as-good-if-not-better (depending on your preference) alternatives to the Thermalright 120.

Top 5 Intel & AMD Heatsinks on Frostytech

+ I've got a lesser hsf and easily get 3.0 ghz on stock voltage your fine where that's concerned.

If your looking to go cheaper there is some room on some of the components. There's also some sales problems; that xfx 9800gtx+ is only on sale for another hour or so and there's only one left. Other sales seem to have passed altogether?
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Old October 22, 2008, 11:10 PM
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thinking about going with a Vendetta2 and grabbing a 120mm noctua on it?
and yes, antec 900 sounds like a good choice...
i know i might be missing out on that 9800 gtx+ deal.. it's going on until the 24th so i'll have to see.. maybe ill wait for the next hwc sponsored deal?

im in no hurry. just planning it out now.
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Old October 22, 2008, 11:31 PM
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Frosty tech ranks a couple of relatively new designs from sunbeam and xigmatek as better coolers (they come with fans for ~$40) + a $20 noctua would be price equivalent with a fanless 120. There are options if you want to go quieter too. Overclocking get's a little figurative with the quiet ones past stock voltage though :O.

I'll let other people post some overnight before trying to find cheaper options for other things.
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Old October 23, 2008, 04:22 AM
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Just my couple cent but get a 640gb HD its definitely worth it and better than the 500. (Only with a deal, if your buying this week and getting the one with the saving god for it, but I'd wait and get a 640)
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Old October 23, 2008, 04:25 AM
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GPU: fine.
Board: fine
Ram: Mushkin Redlines 2x2Gb PC2-8000
CPU: E8400
PSU: Corsair HX620W. Being modular, you'll thank me.
HDD: WD 640Gb, as mentionned before.
HSF: OCZ Vendetta II.
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Old October 23, 2008, 04:26 AM
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I've used Xigmatek HDT-S1283 to overclock 3 of my Q6600 to 3.2-3.4 GHz so it's a great choice for a great price. The equivalent would be the OCZ Vendetta 2 or the Kingwin RVT-12025. All three include a fan as well.

As for the video card, I suggest you try to squeeze a GTX 260 in your build since it run great for 1680x1050 and should be able to run future games as well for up to 3-4 years.
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