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currently most isp's do have their own equipment but not in the CO's. Bell basically owns all the big infrastructre and rents it out to the resellers / wholesalers. I believe bell does ofer a colo service in their co's if you have the cash and the equip-ment but they are usually so packed with bell equipment it isn't financially feasible considering the cost of dslam equipment. I the ong run we all get screwed for our internet as it has to on either bell, shaw/rogers/cogeco, or video tron. However one thing that i know some people have been doing is buying to 2 dsl lines from my isp and then bonding them with tomato/mlppp and considering the low cap per line is 200GB and the only other plan right now is unlimited :) alot of people have been doing it. Well except me since i loath linksys products and there is no mlppp option for my netgear.
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Old August 24, 2008, 05:10 PM
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5Mbps down and 800Kbps up with Acanac..get them, they're cheap..like 20bucks for the first year and after 30 or something...speed is good and no cap or throttling..
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5Mbps down and 800Kbps up with Acanac..get them, they're cheap..like 20bucks for the first year and after 30 or something...speed is good and no cap or throttling..
They're a bell reseller, so it will be the same thing as I have now.
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Most of them are resellers but at least you'll be on an unlimited plan with no traffic shaping...
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They're a bell reseller, so it will be the same thing as I have now.
which is why you should go with teksavvy as they are a wholeseller not a reseller.
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Most of them are resellers but at least you'll be on an unlimited plan with no traffic shaping...
Already get that with the company i am with, I work for an ISP so i get it at a.. heavy discount ;).

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which is why you should go with teksavvy as they are a wholeseller not a reseller.
Theyre a reseller, they have no physical presence other than at their ERXs. If I didnt work for the company i work for, I'd be with TekSavvy. Im asking for a non-bell reseller but looks like there are no options.
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5Mbps down and 800Kbps up with Acanac..get them, they're cheap..like 20bucks for the first year and after 30 or something...speed is good and no cap or throttling..
How could there be no throttling? They are reselling a bell line, and bell throttles all of the lines that they resell for P2P apps?

I had techsavvy in Ottawa and they were pretty good, great customer service, and I had the speeds that they advertised. But again for any P2P applications there is throttling.

I also had Nexicom in Peterborough, great speeds, even faster then advertised, but I think they only provide serive for Central Ontario and the Kawarthas.
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Already get that with the company i am with, I work for an ISP so i get it at a.. heavy discount ;).


Theyre a reseller, they have no physical presence other than at their ERXs. If I didnt work for the company i work for, I'd be with TekSavvy. Im asking for a non-bell reseller but looks like there are no options.
Well i am sure the owner of teksavvy would have a difference of opinion but if you want dsl and live in ontario/pq then chances are it is going to be going through bell's network no matter how you cut it since they had ALL of the infrastructure except up north. But as far as options go it is probably the best value for the money. Especially since they support mlppp :)
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How could there be no throttling? They are reselling a bell line, and bell throttles all of the lines that they resell for P2P apps?

I had techsavvy in Ottawa and they were pretty good, great customer service, and I had the speeds that they advertised. But again for any P2P applications there is throttling.

I also had Nexicom in Peterborough, great speeds, even faster then advertised, but I think they only provide serive for Central Ontario and the Kawarthas.
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Sorry I didn't think about that. Yeah its throttled but I run MLPPP so its not throttled.

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Well i am sure the owner of teksavvy would have a difference of opinion but if you want dsl and live in ontario/pq then chances are it is going to be going through bell's network no matter how you cut it since they had ALL of the infrastructure except up north. But as far as options go it is probably the best value for the money. Especially since they support mlppp :)
No teksavvy has no DSLAMs, thats what I'm saying. Actually I work with the Nephew and cousin of the owners of Teksavvy, so I know a great deal about em. Nice company, but unfortunately they're bell resellers with no presence. I reckon that might change soon.

Ok thanks :). I knew its pretty much Bell resold or nothing, I was hoping I might be missing something (I've never been in my co-lo, only one downtown, so I don't know who else has their own dslams).
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I think it really depends on where you are.... I switched to Rogers here in Moncton and was dreading it based on the crap service I got from them in Borden Ontario. (Throughput slowed to a crawl during peak).

I've been hooked up for a week and a half, and am happy to report that my throughput is pretty damn close to the same 8500/900 I was getting with Eastlink back in HFX, and aside from the first couple of days (they've done something to the lines since then) I haven't noticed any peak time issues.

I've got second highest tier with 95G cap so since I don't DL movies I shouldn't even come close to half of that.
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