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Old May 22, 2008, 04:24 PM
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Default router for firewall. worth it?

My USRobotics router I left my sister has also died (along with her PC in another thread) and she wants a replacement. My question is, do you think it's worth it just for a single computer, to be behind a cheap $40 NAT firewall router for security? I have my single home computer behind a NAT router just for peace of mind, but sometimes I wonder if it's really all that necessary...

I'm betting that most people just have their computers hooked directly up to their modems. What do you guys have?
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Best bang for your buck you'll ever spend for internet security AFAIC.
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Agreed. I have a used BEFSR41 from linksys for sale. Used it for a couple years. Works as a great hardware firewall. I'll sell it to you for $20 +shipping :)

FS: Air Mouse, Wirelss Stuff, Routers, HDD, Ram & More!

Edit: I see u are in Van. $20 if u pick up!!
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Thanks for the offer, but there are a lot of problem reports of that model on the ncix and newegg reviews/forums, and your unit is kind of old. I've been using a cheap d-link ebr 2310 myself and never had any problems with it, so I'm going to pick this one up instead. Also, I need it by tomorrow morning because I have the day off and I don't travel to my parents house often since they live so far away.
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Old May 23, 2008, 04:35 AM
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Thanks for the offer, but there are a lot of problem reports of that model on the ncix and newegg reviews/forums, and your unit is kind of old. I've been using a cheap d-link ebr 2310 myself and never had any problems with it, so I'm going to pick this one up instead. Also, I need it by tomorrow morning because I have the day off and I don't travel to my parents house often since they live so far away.
I have the same one.... had it since '01... no problems, and 5 PC's; i have 2 PC's directly into it... and a D-Link 8-port switch into it-running 3 more PC's.
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I hate running without my router.

I built my own using an old p3 I had lying around.....it runs pfsense 1.2 rc4 ;





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I certainly would'nt recommend bsd/linux routers to everyone as there is a steep learning curve ,but having any router is better than nothing.

Routers are very definitly worth it.

Remember MSblaster ? (if you don't , just try connecting a pre-sp2 xp rig to the internet without a router , you'll learn )

Having a router makes virii/trojans/worms of this sort impotent.
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Thanks for the offer, but there are a lot of problem reports of that model on the ncix and newegg reviews/forums, and your unit is kind of old. I've been using a cheap d-link ebr 2310 myself and never had any problems with it, so I'm going to pick this one up instead. Also, I need it by tomorrow morning because I have the day off and I don't travel to my parents house often since they live so far away.
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I have the same one.... had it since '01... no problems, and 5 PC's; i have 2 PC's directly into it... and a D-Link 8-port switch into it-running 3 more PC's.
Agreed. I have no idea what all the problems are but mine works without a hitch. Only reason I am not using it now is because I bought a wireless laptop and needed a wireless router.
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For me i have had many routers. Here is how i rate them

1. Netgear Prosafe line (there chepaer line is pure crap)
2. D-link
3. Router on a stick (linux firewalls, It's here due to the steep learning curve
4. Linksys

In the past 5 years i have had 3 different routers 2 linksys and one netgear. Both linksys were great when they worked however they both died quite quickly. i bought my netgear and it has been rock solid for 3 years going. how ever if you need wireless you will need buy a prosafe access point as the prosafe routers are business class devices and don't come with wifi. With that said. If you do happen to have a old pc kicking around and don't mind the learning curve the router on a stick is a much more robust and flexible solution. I would recommend either smooth wall express 3 or ipcop. I have had great success with both.

Welcome to Express 3.0! - SmoothWall.org

IPCop.org :: The bad packets stop here!

FVS338 - NETGEAR.com

FVS318 - ProSafe? VPN Firewall 8 w/8 Port 10/100 Switch - NETGEAR.com

FVS114 - ProSafe? VPN Firewall 8 with 4 Port 10/100 Mbps Switch - NETGEAR.com

DGFV338 - ProSafe? 802.11g Wireless ADSL Modem VPN Firewall Router

FWG114P - ProSafe? 802.11g Wireless Firewall w/4 Port 10/ 100 Switch and USB Print Server - NETGEAR.com

WAG102 - ProSafe™ Dual Band Wireless Access Point - NETGEAR.com

WG102 - Prosafe? 802.11g Wireless Access Point - NETGEAR.com

WNDAP330 - ProSafe 802.11n Dual Band Wireless Access Point

Just some links to get you started
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For me i have had many routers. Here is how i rate them

1. Netgear Prosafe line (there chepaer line is pure crap)
2. D-link
3. Router on a stick (linux firewalls, It's here due to the steep learning curve
4. Linksys

In the past 5 years i have had 3 different routers 2 linksys and one netgear. Both linksys were great when they worked however they both died quite quickly. i bought my netgear and it has been rock solid for 3 years going. how ever if you need wireless you will need buy a prosafe access point as the prosafe routers are business class devices and don't come with wifi. With that said. If you do happen to have a old pc kicking around and don't mind the learning curve the router on a stick is a much more robust and flexible solution. I would recommend either smooth wall express 3 or ipcop. I have had great success with both.

Welcome to Express 3.0! - SmoothWall.org

IPCop.org :: The bad packets stop here!

FVS338 - NETGEAR.com

FVS318 - ProSafe? VPN Firewall 8 w/8 Port 10/100 Switch - NETGEAR.com

FVS114 - ProSafe? VPN Firewall 8 with 4 Port 10/100 Mbps Switch - NETGEAR.com

DGFV338 - ProSafe? 802.11g Wireless ADSL Modem VPN Firewall Router

FWG114P - ProSafe? 802.11g Wireless Firewall w/4 Port 10/ 100 Switch and USB Print Server - NETGEAR.com

WAG102 - ProSafe™ Dual Band Wireless Access Point - NETGEAR.com

WG102 - Prosafe? 802.11g Wireless Access Point - NETGEAR.com

WNDAP330 - ProSafe 802.11n Dual Band Wireless Access Point

Just some links to get you started
ya that is what I did after I built my system I traded my dell to my sister for her old ibm netvista computer then installed smoothwall 3 on it I have to say that its the best thing I have ever did there are a fair amount of Mods you can add into it for even more security its great
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Old May 23, 2008, 11:04 PM
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cool. smoothwall is great for someones firt router on a stick project. But once you get used to it. ipcop is a much more robust system. especially when you install cop+ with ipcop makes it crazy featured.
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