How to Remote into Windows 95?

[ipaine]

So I have an old machine, Pentium 233Mhz 32Mb Ram, that is running Windows 95. I want to use this machine as a platform for some good old school gaming.

Now what I would like to do is be able to remote into it so I can leave it downstairs in the basement along with the server. Now I have set up UltraVNC, and I can connect to it but nothing refreshes and the mouse movements are not accurate. I have also installed a remote desktop client but of course that will only allow me to connect to other machines not to it.

Whether it is with remote desktop or vnc I really don't care, I just want to be able to connect to my win95 machine and play some old school games without having to drag it upstairs and hook it up to a monitor.

[Zero82z]

Try LogMeIn perhaps? Though I believe Win95 is from before Windows even supported remote desktop, so I doubt you'll find anything that works. If VNC doesn't do the trick, it's unlikely that anything else will.

[ZZLEE]

Win 95 is facy shell over DOS . I think it is actualy writtenin in DOS. Try a BELKIN KVM that is compatable to WIN 7.
Better IDea. One of these to your server shopRBC.com :: Belkin 10' SOHO PS/2 and USB KVM Replacement Cable w/Audio

And remote contol your server from your comp

[ipaine]

Originally Posted by Zero82z

Try LogMeIn perhaps? Though I believe Win95 is from before Windows even supported remote desktop, so I doubt you'll find anything that works. If VNC doesn't do the trick, it's unlikely that anything else will.

I thought about LogMeIn, but that will go outside of my network and therefore reduce the performance. Ideally I would like it to be something internal so that it can run at what the card supports which is 100MB (I believe, hmm maybe I should check to make sure)

Originally Posted by ZZLEE

Win 95 is facy shell over DOS . I think it is actualy writtenin in DOS. Try a BELKIN KVM that is compatable to WIN 7.
Better IDea. One of these to your server shopRBC.com :: Belkin 10' SOHO PS/2 and USB KVM Replacement Cable w/Audio

And remote contol your server from your comp

I have thought about doing a network KVM as well but I don't know if there are any that would work with that machine. Plus they can be very expensive.

[Zero82z]

Another suggestion: why don't you just make a Win95 VM on one of your more recent PCs and run your old games in that? You could also use DOSBox.

[ZZLEE]

Cheep KVM to server and remote controll the server from your comp, ( witch remotes contols Through KVM to 95 comp)( 95 Slaved to server)

Maybe I don't understand KVM

[sswilson]

Originally Posted by Zero82z

Another suggestion: why don't you just make a Win95 VM on one of your more recent PCs and run your old games in that? You could also use DOSBox.

Win95 had a hard enough time connecting to a network under normal circumstances, let alone allowing a remote connection.... wasn't until `98 that they started to get the networking right.

[ipaine]

Originally Posted by Zero82z

Another suggestion: why don't you just make a Win95 VM on one of your more recent PCs and run your old games in that? You could also use DOSBox.

Yea, I have thought about that as well. I think I was just wanting a good old machine as a pure stand alone and yes if it was upstairs here I would just use the other kvm I have and do it that way. As for dosbox, yes it can do a pretty good job (I have used it plenty) but it is some of the older windows based games that it can't do.

Originally Posted by sswilson

Win95 had a hard enough time connecting to a network under normal circumstances, let alone allowing a remote connection.... wasn't until `98 that they started to get the networking right.

Believe it or not that windows 95 box detected all of my other machines without an issue. That alone was a huge feat.

Oh and get this VNC started working?!!? How or why I do not know. But that hasn't solved it as it will not let the dos programs display properly. Well back to the drawing board.

[Zero82z]

Originally Posted by sswilson

Win95 had a hard enough time connecting to a network under normal circumstances, let alone allowing a remote connection.... wasn't until `98 that they started to get the networking right.

I don't see why a retro gaming machine/VM/DOSBox would need a network connection in the first place. Any games from that era that did actually have an online component are long dead.

[Arinoth]

I'd either install windows 98 onto that computer since i know for a fact it should be able to support it or do Zach's idea and just run a win 95 image in vmware on your main computer and save yourself all the hassle.

[ipaine]

Originally Posted by Zero82z

I don't see why a retro gaming machine/VM/DOSBox would need a network connection in the first place. Any games from that era that did actually have an online component are long dead.

I didn't need it for the gaming aspect, I was looking at leaving it in the basement and then being able to run it remotely. This way I could have a remote window open and run what I wanted on that old machine while still being on my main one upstairs.

Originally Posted by Arinoth

I'd either install windows 98 onto that computer since i know for a fact it should be able to support it or do Zach's idea and just run a win 95 image in vmware on your main computer and save yourself all the hassle.

I think I will have to end up doing that. Can I emulate something as low end as a Pentium 233? I think so but not totally sure.

[LarkStarr]

make sure you turn off compression (Raw or Ultra [probably ultra is best]) and color depth reduction (full colors) in ultravnc. poll full screen options and low accuracy enabled as well in the server properties.

I'm honestly surprised ultravnc even works on such an old machine, I'd had it have issues with a bloody P4.

[Fudd Rucker]

Originally Posted by ipaine

Can I emulate something as low end as a Pentium 233? I think so but not totally sure.

If you run Win95 in VMware on your pc, system requirements wont make a difference. VMware will create a virtual computer that will be independant of your current OS (for all intent purpose) and you can run windows 95 on the virtual computer without the hassle of getting the software to be compatible with a modern OS.

http://pubs.vmware.com/guestnotes/ww...tos_win95.html

That should help you out.

[Zero82z]

Originally Posted by ipaine

I think I will have to end up doing that. Can I emulate something as low end as a Pentium 233? I think so but not totally sure.

You won't be emulating a CPU. If your PC's processor has hardware virtualization support, then the guest OS within the VM will have direct access to it and see it as it really is.

[ipaine]

Originally Posted by Zero82z

You won't be emulating a CPU. If your PC's processor has hardware virtualization support, then the guest OS within the VM will have direct access to it and see it as it really is.

Well see that is an issue then. Some of these old games were meant to be run on 33, 66, 133MHz not 3600MHz like mine is. Hence why I was just wanting to use the old hardware. I was just hoping there was some sort of old school remote access that I could use to treat it as if it was right in front of me.

I know that people had remote access into dos based machines before but I don't know if that was a dedicated hardware solution, which I'm guessing it was/is.