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Old April 5, 2010, 04:15 PM
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MS Security Essentials is definitely awesome for freeware. Completely bloatware free.


For paid solutions, I personally run NOD32 - though I usually suggest Kaspersky to family and friends as it is less complicated and has a better interface
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Old April 5, 2010, 05:06 PM
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i've invoiced more hours troubleshooting Kaspersky issues than any other AV product. I agree Nod is a good anti trojan, etc product. I use Symantec Endpoint protection myself.
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Old April 5, 2010, 05:49 PM
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What are good ways to prevent this from happening? Can anyone make any good security software suggestions?
Assuming the keylogger was installed while your sister was using it, then create a limited user account for her to use. It's difficult to install things like keyloggers without Admin rights. You may even want to try "Kiosk" mode with Windows SteadyState:

Windows SteadyState

For AV I recommend sticking to the established vendors -- Norton, McAfee, Trend and Kaspersky. If you're still running XP, stay away from freebies that are signature based and only scan files during disk I/O. You really need something that will scan HTTP traffic *before* it reaches the browser.

NEVER run multiple on-access AV at the same time.

Basic approach to system security is to make sure Windows and all internet applications and plug-ins (Flash, Acrobat, Java etc) are patched up-to-date, run a good AV and reduce user privileges whenever possible.

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Anything I can do with my router etc? What about Keylogger removal?
Routers and firewall have only a limited role.

For cleaners, try the following, if you know the name of the keylogger you should be able to Google more specific removal instructions:

Kaspersky Virus Removal Tool 2010
Kaspersky Virus Removal Tool 2010

Malwarebytes Anti-Malware
Malwarebytes

Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool
Malicious Software Removal Tool | Protect Your Computer

Sunbelt VIPRE Rescue Program
VIPRE Rescue - VIPRE Computer Recovery Solution from Sunbelt Software

SuperAntiSpyware
SUPERAntiSpyware.com | Remove Malware | Remove Spyware - AntiMalware, AntiSpyware, AntiAdware!
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Old April 5, 2010, 05:53 PM
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I personally use Avira. Free (only gripe is a nag screen that can be removed by a quick fix found on Google) and the highest detection of all at 99.3% (well not all, it loses to G-Data Security but it has much fewer FPs and is much quicker than G-Data which costs money!) which puts it ahead of ESET (97.7) and MSE (96.3). Each 1% is equivalent to ~12,000 samples, so 2% means ~24,000 samples missed.

http://www.av-comparatives.org/image...c_report25.pdf

To protect yourself when browsing, I suggest using something like Sandboxie and/or a HIPs program.
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Old April 9, 2010, 05:31 PM
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We need a forum for this!

Anyways;

Recently somehow I got a keylogger on my computer. I actually do not download a lot so I'm assuming my little sister (who has only recently been allowed to use my comp from time to time) got it on here.

Since this is the first time I've been aware of my system being compromised I thought I'd check some stuff out.

What are good ways to prevent this from happening? Can anyone make any good security software suggestions?

Anything I can do with my router etc? What about Keylogger removal?

-Cam
If you got infected badly enough to have a keylogger on your PC, don't even bother to attempt to remove it (and other potential malware). You need to do a clean install. This is because once someone has admin access to your computer, it's game over. He can install software that will run inside the Windows kernel and lie about what programs are in memory, what files are on the computer, etc. Even installing anti-virus software after the fact won't work.

Do a clean install, then use any anti-virus software suggested in this thread. Then, if I may suggest, protect your computer by putting a password for your user and having your computer auto-lock itself after say, 7 minutes of inactivity. Then, create a separate user for your little sister without any admin rights (standard user will do). Every time she wants to use your computer, she can just click on her user icon to log on as her own user and use your computer.

This way, the worse she can do is screw her own files up. Malware, keyloggers and such just won't be able to install themselves because they need access to protected OS files.
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Old April 9, 2010, 06:13 PM
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Yeah I just yanked the HDD out and put another one I had in and reinstalled everything.. I keep backups of my personal info so it was no biggy.

Thanks for the hefty responses. I'm running Kaspersky and Windows Essentials right now; and banned her completely from my comp. Normall she uses her own but she wanted access to my music so I let her; I just told her to take a hike is all lol.
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Old April 9, 2010, 07:00 PM
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I'm running Kaspersky and Windows Essentials right now;
I'd strongly recommend that you just run one of them (Kaspersky would be my choice), having more than one "on-access" scanner (files are scanned every time they're accessed) running can cause all sorts of problems.
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I purchased a 3 license version of Kaspersky for around $35.
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