Go Back   Hardware Canucks > HARDWARE > Mobile Computing

    
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old August 25, 2013, 04:43 PM
Allstar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 645

My System Specs

Default Ubuntu Tablet: Nexus 7

Has anyone successfully made one of these yet? I am <-> this close to pulling the trigger on a nexus 7 for the purpose of turning it into an Ubuntu tablet, but some insight would be greatly appreciated.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old August 25, 2013, 07:17 PM
howpet's Avatar
MVP
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Peterborough On
Posts: 254

My System Specs

Default

This isn"t an answere to your question but a question about your question....
Isn"t Android a fancy distro of Linux already

A live version can be installed on a usb stick but how to change or unlock the boot sequence...there"s the question that needs to be asked!!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old August 25, 2013, 07:50 PM
Shadowmeph's Avatar
Hall Of Fame
F@H
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,348

My System Specs

Default

I wouldn't call android fancy but I am pretty sure that it is unix based I think the tablets ( correct me if I am wrong) are more like cell phones the laptops the purpose is to make them smaller more mobile so that is why they build android I think that since android uses allot less space than say most linux distros out there then I would just stick with the android and find a place to learn about building your own applications.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old August 25, 2013, 08:20 PM
enaberif's Avatar
Hall Of Fame
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgahree, AB
Posts: 10,592
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowmeph View Post
I wouldn't call android fancy but I am pretty sure that it is unix based I think the tablets ( correct me if I am wrong) are more like cell phones the laptops the purpose is to make them smaller more mobile so that is why they build android I think that since android uses allot less space than say most linux distros out there then I would just stick with the android and find a place to learn about building your own applications.
Linux/Unix can use less than 100mb of space quite easily.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old August 25, 2013, 10:02 PM
MVP
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 447
Default

In a general sense, Android is a Linux distribution. That is, it is a distributable OS built around the Linux kernel.

However, when people say 'Linux distribution', they often really mean 'GNU/Linux distribution'; such as Ubuntu. It's robust and general purpose.

Android is highly customized with no GNU userland. It is fast because it's not robust. It's optimized for specific purposes.

Aside having a kernel in common (not directly relevant to end-user), they're very different beasts. I'm sure there are some who would argue semantics, but Android is not a Unix. It's not even posix compliant.

Last edited by Desiato; August 25, 2013 at 10:15 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old August 25, 2013, 11:53 PM
Allstar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 645

My System Specs

Default

It's experimental at this stage: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install

Just seeing if anyone on the forums has done it yet before I try it
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old August 26, 2013, 06:05 PM
JD's Avatar
JD JD is offline
Moderator
F@H
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 6,891

My System Specs

Default

Yeah I did it a few months back, it sucks big time. Not sure how much it's improved since then, but everything about it was just horrible. Didn't perform well, nothing seemed logical to get to (settings and such) and there was just a total lack of apps. I mean I don't use a ton of apps to begin with, but there was just a non-existent selection.

Suffice to say, I put back Android back within a few hours.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old August 26, 2013, 06:09 PM
sswilson's Avatar
Moderator
F@H
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Moncton NB
Posts: 14,474

My System Specs

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JD View Post
Yeah I did it a few months back, it sucks big time. Not sure how much it's improved since then, but everything about it was just horrible. Didn't perform well, nothing seemed logical to get to (settings and such) and there was just a total lack of apps. I mean I don't use a ton of apps to begin with, but there was just a non-existent selection.

Suffice to say, I put back Android back within a few hours.
Was it hard to restore?

Honestly though, as much as I'm a bit paranoid about Google's business plan of mining everybody's data I doubt very much that I'd want to swap the massive selection of decent free apps in the android marketplace for a basic Linux build with just a few apps.
__________________
MSI Z87I Gaming AC / i5 4670K / 2X 4G Gskill 1866 DDR3 / XFX XTR 750 / EVGA GTX 680 SC+ 2GB / Intel DC S3700 200G / random 160G Sata HDD
Inwin 904 / Swiftech MCP655-b / Alphacool NexXxos XT45 120 Rad / 2X Scythe GT AP-15 / EK Supreme HF / Dell UltraSharp U2412M

Asrock AM1H-ITX / AM1 Athlon 5350 / 2X4G Gskill PC3-14900 / Intel 6235 Wi-Fi / 90W Targus Power Brick / 320G Seagate Momentus / Mini-Box M350 / 1X 22" Dell IPS / 1X 22" HP
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old August 26, 2013, 06:13 PM
JD's Avatar
JD JD is offline
Moderator
F@H
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 6,891

My System Specs

Default

But it's not even a Linux build per-say. I was expecting a full desktop like Ubuntu, but no, it's their own crummy phone OS just like Mozilla's Firefox OS. I don't know what these companies are thinking. iOS and Android have the market in their hands, there's no way you can enter the market this late in the game with sub-par software. Look at how palmOS/webOS failed, and look at how BB10 is slowly failing too.

And assuming you've flashed custom Android ROMs before and have some knowledge of fastboot and adb commands, it's super easy to flash between things. Of course you lose all your data, but that's not a huge deal.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old August 26, 2013, 06:26 PM
sswilson's Avatar
Moderator
F@H
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Moncton NB
Posts: 14,474

My System Specs

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JD View Post
But it's not even a Linux build per-say. I was expecting a full desktop like Ubuntu, but no, it's their own crummy phone OS just like Mozilla's Firefox OS. I don't know what these companies are thinking. iOS and Android have the market in their hands, there's no way you can enter the market this late in the game with sub-par software. Look at how palmOS/webOS failed, and look at how BB10 is slowly failing too.

And assuming you've flashed custom Android ROMs before and have some knowledge of fastboot and adb commands, it's super easy to flash between things. Of course you lose all your data, but that's not a huge deal.
Heh... considering my one and only cell phone flips open and still says "Hello Moto" to me, it'd be a safe bet I've never done that.... :)

I'll hold off for something better to come along if it ever does. :)
__________________
MSI Z87I Gaming AC / i5 4670K / 2X 4G Gskill 1866 DDR3 / XFX XTR 750 / EVGA GTX 680 SC+ 2GB / Intel DC S3700 200G / random 160G Sata HDD
Inwin 904 / Swiftech MCP655-b / Alphacool NexXxos XT45 120 Rad / 2X Scythe GT AP-15 / EK Supreme HF / Dell UltraSharp U2412M

Asrock AM1H-ITX / AM1 Athlon 5350 / 2X4G Gskill PC3-14900 / Intel 6235 Wi-Fi / 90W Targus Power Brick / 320G Seagate Momentus / Mini-Box M350 / 1X 22" Dell IPS / 1X 22" HP
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Google Launches Nexus 10 Tablet; An iPad Competitor at Just $399 SKYMTL Press Releases & Tech News 47 November 14, 2012 04:47 AM
Google's new Nexus 7 tablet by ASUS, for $209 Jake_HT Mobile Computing 148 August 3, 2012 05:42 PM
Google’s Nexus 7 is a $152 Tablet Sam_Reynolds Press Releases & Tech News 3 July 12, 2012 09:55 AM
Student buying his first tablet. Leaning towards the Thinkpad Tablet. Advice? Bentech Mobile Computing 1 November 14, 2011 08:37 AM
Galaxy Nexus (aka Nexus Prime) ad5ter Mobile Computing 30 October 21, 2011 06:32 AM