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Old November 26, 2012, 07:23 PM
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Fanboy much there?? I have yet to see one post trashing the phone outright... what I have seen is more talk about the flaws at this point....
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Old November 26, 2012, 08:11 PM
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He does have a point -- it's a good phone, with most of the usual specs. Let's also keep in mind the Nexus line is sold worldwide, and LTE isn't particularly widespread even in the industrialised countries. It's still capable of 42 Mbs (funny thing is that LTE still doesn't qualify under the old 4G standard, that'll take LTE-Advanced).

If people are paying attention, flagship phones are coming as often as not without expandable storage. Carriers like the idea of phones which are reliant on the cloud, because that means data charges.

The Nexus 4 gives people a choice: a flagship phone in all but storage and LTE; spend $250 more to get a phone identical except for an SD card and LTE (AT&T version of the LG Optimus G); or spend the same amount and get stuck in a three-year inflated contract.
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Old November 26, 2012, 08:40 PM
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I don't know. I still feel all weird when my phone has better download speeds than my current landline internet connection.......
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Old November 26, 2012, 09:02 PM
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I don't know. I still feel all weird when my phone has better download speeds than my current landline internet connection.......
That's what bugs me the most when reading about all this LTE and HSPA+ stuff and hearing people complain about lack of them. Boo freaking hoo, you can't get insane speeds wirelessly to your phone. Meanwhile I'm on Rogers' second highest cable internet and I'm sitting at 32Mbps. Honestly, what on your phone requires more than that? Your 2MB picture is going to take half a second to load on HSPA+, but on LTE you can get like .2 of a second load time! WOWZAS.

How about we work on caps and pricing before letting us kill our entire data plan's allowance in a couple minutes. Canada...
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Old November 26, 2012, 09:31 PM
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Forcing cloud storage in an environment where internet is expensive and low caps. That is always a deal breaker for me and many others. That is what I call gimped.

Forcing? Who's forcing you or anyone else? Firstly, I've never heard of anyone complain about the amount of space except for you, my friend. Second, the phone is three hundred and fifty freaking dollars. Find me a comparatively priced phone with these features. But let's put some things into perspective here. There's 16 GB of space on the upper end phone. I'm sorry if you have trouble living with only a thousand songs that you (probably illegally) downloaded, only a thousand or so pictures, only a hundred apps and a movie or two. There are many other high end phones that have limited space or no choice for expansion. It must be hard to walk into a mcdonalds or a tim hortons or a starbucks or a friend's house to access your cloud data on the go if you can't afford a half decent data plan. I mean really, what are you going to do with say, 64 GB that you can't really do with 16? More (illegal) music?


The phone may not be a fit for everyone, but you can't say the features don't more then fit the price of the device by a large, large margin.

But if you feel forced, you're welcome to get a 64 gig iPhone. With iCloud. I think they're currently $900+tax?
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Old November 27, 2012, 05:00 AM
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Some good points have been raised about the need for LTE. Personally, I am just fine with the HSPA+ on my Blackberry 9900, even when I use it as a wireless modem for on-the-go browsing. At this point, I feel that LTE is simply being used as a way for companies to market their very much stale services. Using LTE is absolutely great but with today's ridiculous download caps on wireless networks (200MB, WTF!?) most people will never see the benefits.
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Old November 27, 2012, 05:11 AM
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@Larkstarr, you really need to take a break from the keyboard once and awhile. Seriously. If Technology can get frothing at the mouth like a Baptist preacher at a porn star convention, you are just far too concerned about Google's future and their likeability.

To me, and to many others, no expandable storage is a deal killer for ANY phone. Why is that such a difficult concept for people to understand? An iPhone could have 1TB of memory and I wouldn't buy one. Apple has taken gimping to an olypmic level.

@Jake HT: I never complained about the price. I will add that while I can't get a matching phone for the same price, I CAN get a Galaxy S II X with close enough specs with the features I want for $250. If anything, I am a fan of LG phones, I miss my Optimus One and if Koodo had a decent high end LG phone I'd very likely jump all over it.

LTE has never even been a part of my thought process with ANY phone really.
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Old November 27, 2012, 11:20 AM
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Some good points have been raised about the need for LTE. Personally, I am just fine with the HSPA+ on my Blackberry 9900, even when I use it as a wireless modem for on-the-go browsing. At this point, I feel that LTE is simply being used as a way for companies to market their very much stale services. Using LTE is absolutely great but with today's ridiculous download caps on wireless networks (200MB, WTF!?) most people will never see the benefits.
That's the problem right there, you're using a Blackberry, you're not going to see the need for LTE when using such a dated OS. I've been using LTE for a year now, and there is absolutely no way I can go back to HSPA. It's not just about speed, it's about latency and the overall experience; I load an app that accesses web info, and it's up nearly instantly and that to me is a huge advantage. You wouldn't notice any of this on a current gen BB because it's such a terrible experience aside from email. When I had my Bold 9900, I didn't use it for anything other than email because it was just so bad at everything else...

LTE is a great leap in technology for the wireless industry, and with my 6GB plan on Rogers, I have no complaints about caps as it's more than enough for my needs, and most of the base on Canadian carriers.
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That's the problem right there, you're using a Blackberry, you're not going to see the need for LTE when using such a dated OS. I've been using LTE for a year now, and there is absolutely no way I can go back to HSPA. It's not just about speed, it's about latency and the overall experience; I load an app that accesses web info, and it's up nearly instantly and that to me is a huge advantage. You wouldn't notice any of this on a current gen BB because it's such a terrible experience aside from email. When I had my Bold 9900, I didn't use it for anything other than email because it was just so bad at everything else...

LTE is a great leap in technology for the wireless industry, and with my 6GB plan on Rogers, I have no complaints about caps as it's more than enough for my needs, and most of the base on Canadian carriers.
I may be using a Blackberry but for the last month I had been using a Galaxy Note II on LTE and HSPA. While the speed difference was noticeable, under no circumstance was it a game-changer.
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I'm looking forward to LTE coming in Winnipeg. I'm already signed up on a 6GB plan, and while 4G is indeed fast, it still sometimes takes a little time for HQ youtube vids to buffer fully. With LTE, this experience would be seamless.

(It would make slacking off at work on a Friday sooo much easier )

Plus, I've found that enabling the wireless hotspot function on my Galaxy while on roadtrips in order to use all the other portable devices we have (iPad and Laptop) is now an essential experience. LTE will simply mean that two devices can comfortably surf the web using my phone as the data hookup. And as long as we don't download any .torrent files and don't overuse the Youtube while on extended roadtrips, the 6GB of data is more than enough.
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