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Finch January 15, 2010 04:20 PM

URGENT Old laptop upgrade question
 
hi all,

usually i do not need help regarding pc's but for laptops i am newb here. so i just have a quick question. i have a dell latitude cpx here that i cannot find the exact model number but it has a ibm travelstar 20gb hdd in it and i would like to upgrade it. i dont know what is compatible with it. i know it is a ide 2.5'' but i dont know what would be the max size supported. can i put something like 80gb, 160gb? it would be running windows xp. if you guys have links of products it would be appreciated.

also it has a p3 650mhz that looks to be on a mmc-2 socket and i found a 750mhz on ebay that is on the same socket aswell. would it be compatible?

i need a quick answer because ebay auctions ends quick

thx in advance

b1lk1 January 15, 2010 05:54 PM

Changing to a 750MHz CPU will offer almost no gain at all in speed, waste of cash. Instead of changing the drive I would get an external USB drive to store all data and just use the 20GB drive for the OS install. It's very likely that chipset/BIOS will not support over 37GB anyways.

Finch January 15, 2010 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1lk1 (Post 318465)
Changing to a 750MHz CPU will offer almost no gain at all in speed, waste of cash. Instead of changing the drive I would get an external USB drive to store all data and just use the 20GB drive for the OS install. It's very likely that chipset/BIOS will not support over 37GB anyways.

thx for you're reply. i know it is a "waste of cash" but it is a customer that wants me to upgrade the laptop and he has a budget allowed for this. For 30$ i think it is worth it especially that this laptop is slow with windows xp. the laptop already has 512mb of memory wich i think is the maximum allowed so the only think remaining to skeeze a little more performance is the cpu and hdd.

so you think this chipset allows only 37gb maximum so maybe i could at least put a 40gb hdd then. How can i know the maximum size the chipset will support?

b1lk1 January 15, 2010 06:03 PM

Can you find the exact model number?

As for the CPU, it should be supported but it is honestly a crapshoot. Look on Dell's site for any BIOS upgrades first.

MarkOne January 15, 2010 06:05 PM

My old P IV laptop is slow like Hell, I have 512 gb and a fresh install of Xp with everything fancy disable.. customer always expect miracle. just told him it will not happen with a PIII

Finch January 15, 2010 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1lk1 (Post 318472)
Can you find the exact model number?

As for the CPU, it should be supported but it is honestly a crapshoot. Look on Dell's site for any BIOS upgrades first.

the only thing i can see is dell latitude cpx ppx

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkOne (Post 318474)
My old P IV laptop is slow like Hell, I have 512 gb and a fresh install of Xp with everything fancy disable.. customer always expect miracle. just told him it will not happen with a PIII

yes but i already told that to the customer IMO it is not worth 5cents but meh i dont take the decisions

MarkOne January 15, 2010 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Finch (Post 318478)
yes but i already told that to the customer IMO it is not worth 5cents but meh i dont take the decisions

Believe me, you not out of trouble if you do everything customer ask.

b1lk1 January 15, 2010 06:53 PM

Have to agree with Markone here, this customer will be even more upset when the machine is no faster and money was spent. Getting a USB external drive is also smarter since it can transfer to the new laptop the customer really needs. This is a no win for you as the technician, I would personally refuse the work as would 99% of most shops when it comes to attempted upgrades on obsolete machines.

ArtTech Bill April 21, 2011 08:03 PM

Old is New
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by b1lk1 (Post 318465)
Changing to a 750MHz CPU will offer almost no gain at all in speed, waste of cash. Instead of changing the drive I would get an external USB drive to store all data and just use the 20GB drive for the OS install. It's very likely that chipset/BIOS will not support over 37GB anyways.


I was told a Latitude Dell LS would not support a large drive, there are PATA drives at the 320GB level or similar, over 250GB anyway, XP will see that, Win 9x (95-98-ME) will not. However, you can get a format of 120GBs from a larger drive, Formatting with Windows 9x allows an easy swap, with Vista or XP, the chipset and variables must match, then it assumes the same system with new peripherals. Trust me, I work on these for a few years now, just look on YouTube to see what can be done.

The C series includes the CPx all the way to the C800s and above, C800 series has Pentium 3 Tualatin and built in DVD/CD drives as well as modules, the CPx and C600, C610, and C640 share the same outward hardware so motherboards can be swapped, even among Inspiron with the same specs. I took them apart and shared things like 14.1 inch displays among the 600-640s, where the CPx and CPt, etc, tend to vary is the evolution to Pentium 3, and Dell supported three speeds there all in all I believe, 650, 750, and 850 PIII Coppermines

For the MMC-1, perhaps same appearance as the PIII machines but the hardware WAS revised as far as layout. The only real problem is USB x1 port and Dell's reluctance to move to 2.0 USB for some time, and these demand often to have a USB support card and no Internal Ethernet is the main drawback, no miniPCI card for Wifi onboard, so try a port replicator perhaps? Some allow additional features, as well as a power source if the jack goes bad on the main laptop.

To also note, two front modules for the Latitudes means you can buy two batteries and use them in both slots! My first computer was a 700Mhz Celeron, and it came with DVD combi drive, so the speed of the CPU is really no issue. Tualatin is the best, but Coppermine is no slouch! Mobiles are faster then desktops I believe

MARSTG June 2, 2011 04:00 AM

Best upgrade for such an old laptop would be a SSD, there is one on newegg, 8GB, ATA, but is 100$, more than that laptop costs right now. Otherwise, I would consider giving it up completely such an old configuration .


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