Purchased my 1st Mac

[Chilly]

Originally Posted by Perineum

Yeah, I'm better than they are by default. I do know *something* about computers, whereas they do not. I personally don't care about race, color, creed, sexual orientation, or which Mac matches your drapes.

.... but don't, as a Mac user, look down your nose at me, acting like "you've figured it all out" and I'm in the dark.

Hi, I'm a Mac user(as well as a PC user, more PC than Mac actually) and I look down on you because... Guess what, I DO know more than you, not BECAUSE I'm a Mac user but because I'm a heavy experienced *computer* user. A Mac is nothing more than a different brand of computer. A stylish one, *exteriorly* well build (insides are nothing special), one at that, but just another brand of computer none the less.

And yes, I am a Mac user, most people here don't know that because I'm a HARDWARE ENTHUSIAST first and foremost. Why do I use Mac? Because for some of the work I do, the software, even when the company offers the same program on both platforms, on PC's just doesn't cut it. I own more PC's(about 7 currently, 4 with Windows, 1 with Linux, 1 with FreeBSD{pfsense}, 1 with OpenSolaris) than Macs(2 currently) by FAR, but I'm still a Mac user, as well as a PC user.

[Perineum]

Originally Posted by vintank

Dude seriously no one has said anything that even implies that they are looking down their noses at you.

No, no one on HWC has. On other forums and in actual life they have.

Originally Posted by vintank

Second of all as for hackintosh's yes they work, but are really a pain in the ass to setup and keep up-to-date and that is how Apple has made a solid OS it only supports what products they want in their systems. Honestly if it was possible to customize a Mac like you can a PC the user base would be on par for them both.

Think of how many possible hardware combinations there are for PC. Now go write an OS that can handle all those without hiccup. For the most part you've got Windows (XP and above) and Microsoft did a pretty good job, other than completely screwing with the GUI every revision.

Originally Posted by vintank

Yes Mac's are more expensive as unlike PC's they are not a mash up of parts (when I say this I am talking about budget pre-built systems) Now to build a top end PC and to have a top Mac you are spending roughly the same amount. Yes PC laptops are cheaper but yet again you are getting a lot less of a PC than if you were buying a Mac Book.

I spend much less on any of my systems and they are always better than Macs. Don't tell me that you're going to try and compare a $399 computer at "Ed's computer emporium" with a $2000 Mac...

Apple has no ability to make their computers themselves. They outsource all the work. These "expensive" Mac motherboards are no different from any of Asus's run of the mill stuff.

If you think, even for a moment, that somehow you're not paying a loyalty tax to Jobs when buying a Mac you might want to step back and look at things very very subjectively.

Originally Posted by vintank

No way am I insulting PC users or mac users, and I am not stating that one is ultimately better than other as they both have their uses that they excel at. And I have been using OS's since MS-Dos and Windows 3.1 and even back then the apple computers had a better OS TO ME.

Well if we are going back that far back then I'd happily use my Amiga over a Mac or a PC any day. PC's were crashing hunks of crap with "Plug and Pray" and Macs were honestly just plain laughable. They looked cheap, were slow, and most of them were monochrome at the time.

Originally Posted by vintank

Now OS selection strictly comes down to personal preference and, ME PERSONALLY,I enjoy the Mac interface more but while using Windows Vista and Windows 7 even that is a hard choice as they are both visually appealing but Mac still wins out, FOR ME, as it is a lot more stable and lets face it has a lot less virus worries.

I wouldn't base my OS on pretty colors or how candy-like the buttons look.

If, for any reason, you're having stability issues with a Windows XP or newer machine then I'm sorry to say it's likely your fault.

Viruses should not be a worry on a PC. You, with just a modicum of effort, should be able to easily spot the attempts virus makers make in effort to trick you into installing their virus. YOU have to install it because they can't exploit the OS to do it.

Mac OS is a much more viable OS to get virused than Windows Vista or 7. That's a fact.

Those stability issues you've got? Probably spyware or viruses. Could also be bad hardware, which *no* computer gets away from.

Originally Posted by vintank

Now again this is all my opinion and I am in no way insulting anyone, or looking down at anyone, but when you go and start insulting people for their opinion that is when you get a FANBOY as you have the notion that the only opinion that is correct is yours. We are all adults here on these awesome forums so can we act like it.

I know a lot to read but as I stated its my opinion.

Ahhhhh... As adults we should have learned early in life the difference between opinion and fact. In case you weren't aware, not all opinion is based on fact.

So, don't pass off your opinion as fact and I won't be forced to be a "fanboy".

Btw, passing off your opinion as fact and making wild generalizations as proof of your opinion is "fanboyish"

[Perineum]

Originally Posted by Chilly

Hi, I'm a Mac user(as well as a PC user, more PC than Mac actually) and I look down on you because... Guess what, I DO know more than you, not BECAUSE I'm a Mac user but because I'm a heavy experienced *computer* user.

And I'm not? Is this where we whip our dicks out and measure now?

[Chilly]

Originally Posted by Perineum

And I'm not? Is this where we whip our dicks out and measure now?

Sure, lets whip them out! I was simply drawing attention to your idiotic statement that just because I'm a Mac user I must know less than you. If I use a Mac I must be an idiot, because PC's are superior in ever way, no way there would actually be applications to which the Mac is better suited for! Blasphemy!

I don't actually think I'm better than someone else and look down upon them.

[MarkOne]

Originally Posted by Perineum

........
I've used many operating systems, some of which many of you would likely not know of. ......

and they are ?

[yamawho]

Time for a commercial ...

[Perineum]

Originally Posted by MarkOne

and they are ?

Amiga / AmigaOS

Unfortunately a lot of people missed out on this excellent OS.

Originally Posted by Cheator

And what makes you think ANY of the Mac users posting here have done that to you? Separate the idiot fanboys and the users here, please. Its 2 completely different groups, especially since, being here usually means we're hardware enthusiasts, not Steve Job worshipers.

I never said anyone here at HWC did do that. However, I'm not going to let Apple advertising get a free ride here.

A statement like "But you get so much more quality for the price" isn't going to get unanswered.

[vintank]

I never passed off my statements as facts its all from my perspective and now my computer problems are not my own fault its a limit on the Windows,
absolutely nothing I can do if certain software runs smoother on one OS rather than them both. And I was never comparing cheap computers to "expensive macs"
and as for my OS choice, it has nothing to do with pretty colours, it is actually based on the actual user interface. I just find the total drag and drop extremely useful
as well as being able to format (without jumping through hoops) to multiple different file systems and not being primarily stuck to one NTFS as the software company
feels that its the best choice.

yes the hardware selection for PC's is greater but guess what again that is personal preference, which is why I use PC's as well as I like to build, take apart, upgrade etc.

the extra you pay for a Mac is more or less piece of mind as lets face it, its been proven that mac's have less headaches involved than pc's do.
and me personally am glad to pay extra for piece of mind which is also why I purchase extended warranties on major products.

no my stability issues are strictly program related, memory leaks etc that crash the programs I use. as for virus, me personally have never had one on my computer
as well I don't really download too much from non-trusted sites, as well as have all the spyware and virus protection stuff installed on my pc's, on my mac's I don't need that
at all as well I am not downloading anything on them not even music

and case in point you calling me a fanboy as my opinion doesn't match yours and there were no wild generalizations in my statements at again it is all opinion
and as opinion = fact I never claimed that anything I said was fact for anyone else but me which is why its an opinion. everyone has opinions and their opinions are fact for themselves
as its all from their own perspective.

[vintank]

ah the lovely amiga, been a very very long time since I have used that one, and unfortunately never got to spend a lot of time with it
but nothing too memorable for me but I was really young at the time and was more interested in riding my bmx bike and doing bunny hops
oh to be young again

[Perineum]

Originally Posted by vintank

...and as for my OS choice, it has nothing to do with pretty colours, it is actually based on the actual user interface. I just find the total drag and drop extremely useful as well as being able to format (without jumping through hoops) to multiple different file systems and not being primarily stuck to one NTFS as the software company feels that its the best choice.

Now you're getting somewhere...

Originally Posted by vintank

the extra you pay for a Mac is more or less piece of mind as lets face it, its been proven that mac's have less headaches involved than pc's do. and me personally am glad to pay extra for piece of mind which is also why I purchase extended warranties on major products.

I really can't agree with that statement.