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Old May 10, 2009, 03:06 PM
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I"m not usually one that is much on words but that being said this monitor is beautifull!!
Text and images crisp and clear almost to the point of thinking this is a CRT monitor. The packaging makes it almost impossible for your delivery carrier to damage anything inside the box. Included in package is 1 VGA, 1 DVI and a USB cable (2 ports left side monitor) and of course driver CD. Only drawback to the cables is they are a little on the short side. The mounting base is weighted so it sits solidly on your desk and the swivel has a firm feel. Upgrading from an LG 19" 1440x900 monitor I notice my 8800GTX climbed in temps almost 15 degrees from 55 to 70 at idle ( considering aftermarket cooler now).
If you"re in the market for a new E-IPS panel this is the one, watch for future sales on Dell"s site or even at the regular price this is well worth the money. Sorry not very detailed review but maybe someone here at HWC will be forthcoming with a little more professional guide.
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Dell makes some nice screens. I picked up the 2408WFP a few weeks ago when they had it on sale for a day. I have had one at work for about 6 months now, and just live it. I don't think I could personally deal with anything that has less than 1200 pixel vertical resolution. I guess I am spoiled or something.
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Old May 14, 2009, 01:02 PM
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There are a couple neat tricks to this panel you may not know about.

1. The monitor can easily do 75Hz at native resolution (1680 x1050)
Wheee for us gamers!

2. It can support component input.
Hook up your 360 or other device without switching cables around, you just need an adapter for the VGA port. :)

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It's the best sub 1920x1200 monitor out there right now imo, easily kicks in the teeth of all the TN junkers floating around those resolutions. Made me regret buying my 2009w when it went on sale not 7 weeks later, the two side by side is like night and day.
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Old June 28, 2009, 01:21 PM
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I"m not usually one that is much on words but that being said this monitor is beautifull!!
Text and images crisp and clear almost to the point of thinking this is a CRT monitor. The packaging makes it almost impossible for your delivery carrier to damage anything inside the box. Included in package is 1 VGA, 1 DVI and a USB cable (2 ports left side monitor) and of course driver CD. Only drawback to the cables is they are a little on the short side. The mounting base is weighted so it sits solidly on your desk and the swivel has a firm feel. Upgrading from an LG 19" 1440x900 monitor I notice my 8800GTX climbed in temps almost 15 degrees from 55 to 70 at idle ( considering aftermarket cooler now).
If you"re in the market for a new E-IPS panel this is the one, watch for future sales on Dell"s site or even at the regular price this is well worth the money. Sorry not very detailed review but maybe someone here at HWC will be forthcoming with a little more professional guide.

Awesome, thanks for the review!
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After reading some reviews on the internet I would avoid this monitor - this is a cheap IPS (e-IPS) doesn't come closxe to the more expensive monitors. I don't see how this monitor can be used for photography, color correction, etc, given it's poor color reproduction and other problems.

Dell UltraSharp 2209WA review | LCD Review Zone

I've read much the same reviews elsewhere as well. To me color accuracy is everything - and monitors with poor gamma and bad color accuracy = useless - Now I know why I'm sticking to CRT - I have yet to see ANY LCD monitor come close to CRT in terms of color accuracy! This Dell monitor is way overrated IMO.
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Old June 28, 2009, 02:00 PM
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After reading some reviews on the internet I would avoid this monitor - this is a cheap IPS (e-IPS) doesn't come closxe to the more expensive monitors. I don't see how this monitor can be used for photography, color correction, etc, given it's poor color reproduction and other problems.

Dell UltraSharp 2209WA review | LCD Review Zone

I've read much the same reviews elsewhere as well. To me color accuracy is everything - and monitors with poor gamma and bad color accuracy = useless - Now I know why I'm sticking to CRT - I have yet to see ANY LCD monitor come close to CRT in terms of color accuracy! This Dell monitor is way overrated IMO.
An economy monitor over-rated? I think you have completely and totally missed the point and target market for this monitor. Anyone buying it is CERTAINLY not looking for perfection. If that is needed and you must have a LCD then you would not even look at ANY current retail LCD out there, you'd be looking for medical grade screens.

I see lots of critiques like yours and it leads me to one conclusion. You condemn a product without personally seeing it. There has not been and will be no further enhancements in CRT technology so you either learn to adapt to what is available or hope your CRT lasts the next 30 years.

Any way you look at it, noone buys CRT's anymore. In the world of 22" LCDs which is completely full of TN panels, this IS the best you can get for a reasonable price. When you start to have reasonable expectations then maybe a LCD is in your future.
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Economy or not, it's much the same, even the higher-end ones still have their problems....

Well you can say whatever you want - if I go for LCD it would be a major step back for me - Most people buy LCD because of size and weight - and no, you are wrong I HAVE seen and used many LCDs and tested many - nothing has come even close to CRT - it's a shame because for $500 in the days I could get a good quality Viewsonic CRT - even at that price now for LCD I would not even even close. Funny but I paid some $$$ for a graphics card that has tons of features and 24bit color - something most LCDs cannot even reproduce because TN panels = 6bit color + crap dithering - Where is my beloved HDR and smooth gradiant colors from my CRT ? It IS a shame that CRT monitors are not sold anymore, anywhere - I think for serious gamers and people concerned about QUALITY and COLOR accuracy, CRT is the way to go. Companies are CHEATING their customers with overrated monitors and false claims - Take the Viewsonic VLED22 as an example of misrepresentation - the monitor is a piece of JUNK combined with a single LED and absolutely horrid performance compared to even CCFL TN panels......... And it is not just me but this comes out quite often about the gamma and color problems on today's LCD. I have yet to see ANY LCD monitor that is decent - they either have a green bias, yellowish tone, blueish tone, washed out colors (Dell), poor viewing angles, backliht bleeding, poor uniformity (Samsungs), etc.
not to mention that you are FORCED to use native resolution and do not have the flexibility of going a notch down in resolution for gaining extra FPS on demanding games, forcing you to buy top of the line cards.... scaling & interpolation is not a good thing on ANY LCD monitor and anything outside native res = blurry crap.
I can't understand why ANY, even non professional user, and game would settle with dithered, fake 24bit over smooth, color accurate CRTs anyways.... kind of stepping backwards now is it ?
I'd expect that in 2009 things would get better but it's getting worse and worse. I think i'll wait for the multi-led monitors, I'll pass on the single backlight CRAP.
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Have you seen or ever used a NEC LCD2490WUXi or LCD2690WUXi? The ones WITH the AW-T Polarizer, or even the WUXi2's or LCD2090WUXi without? You'll change your tune when you use one of the NEC's I listed above, they use medical grade H-IPS panels and BOY, are the some of the most beautiful LCD's Ive seen in my LIFE.
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Darkstar, you seem to be forgetting that we are paying $200 for these monitors, not $500. Add to that the IPS panel can display 16 bit native along with other non TN panels. This is the reason we are happy to be getting new non TN economy panels in the market. My current Dell 2407-HC is astonishing at the color range and clarity. If I had actually believed 1/2 the bogus reviews on it I never would have bought it and I have never been happier. THe higher resolutions are the only way to play and considering my $100 (new) HD 4830 can play pretty much any title @ 1920X1200. I don't understand why you actually need to spend $300+ on a video card except for some nice e-peen. Not trying to start an argument over this, but most of your arguments are really not valid.

I concede that a GOOD CRT can outperform a LCD panel, but you cannot condemn current models for even 1/2 the reasons you are using.
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