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bnn1 January 19, 2012 02:29 AM

Budget gaming machine - AMD
 
I'm new to the forums and first of all i would like to say hello to everybody. I am not a native english speaker so maybe i'll have some mistakes in the following post. Ok, let's go :
I have a tightened budget for building a gaming rig.I was thinking of going to AMD platform because of the costs.Here's what i've been thinking of :

CPU : AMD Athlon II X4 631 Quad Core, 2600MHz, socket FM1
MB : Gigabyte A75M-S2V, socket FM1 (i want this motherboard, no other suggestions please, i have my reasons :) )
GPU : Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD6850, 1024MB, GDDR5, 256bit, HDMI, DVI, PCI-E
HDD : Western Digital Caviar Blue KX, 500GB, 16MB, 7200rpm, SATA 3
PSU : Rasurbo Silent-Power DLP-55.1, 550W (Is this enough power?)
RAM : Kingston 8GB 1333MHz DDR3 Non-ECC CL9 DIMM (Kit of 2x4GB)

I already own a DVD-RW, keyboard, mouse,monitor and W7 x64 Ultimate.
For other informations regarding the CPU + GPU i used this website : http://www.cpubenchmark.net/ and AMD x4 631CPU and ATI HD6850 are the best value components in their opinion.


Do you think that if i buy A8-3850/3800 APU + Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD6850 i will get better performance in games? I will benefit of Crossfire?

Thank you :biggrin:

LE : I want to play : All series of Crysis (1,warhead,2), Mafia 2, GTA IV, Far Cry 2, Fifa 2012, PES 2012, COD: MW 3 and MW 2, Battlefield 3, HoN, LoL, Dota 2, World of warcraft, EVE Online, Assassin's Creed (all series),Hawx, NFS Shift,The Run, Hot pursuit.. etc. and every other game for the next 1 or 2 years.

I plan to later upgrade to a SSD for installing the OS and the game which i curently play.

MARSTG January 31, 2012 04:28 PM

Nobody heard of Rasurbo, so I suggest you put a good name in there for PSU : Corsair, Seasonic, XFX Core edition. Any unit from these manufacturers that is 500W and 80 Plus or 80 Plus bronze would give you peace of mind and keep you on track. Caviar blue is a kinda slow drive would suggest Seagate 7200.12 or Samsung Spinpoint F4. You are already bent on that mobo, but you know, from AMD camp best gamers are the Athlon II X3. Add a small and used geforce 8/9 card to have PhysX calculations also and you should be fine.

Lyserberg February 3, 2012 08:40 AM

GTA IV will need a lot of CPU goodness,i suggest no less than 4 real cores (an AMD Phenom 2 X4 or a bulldozer will do the trick)
Also the CPU u mentionned is not socket FM1,FM1 is an APU socket,the socket must be AM3 or AM3+ to support that.
All games u mentionned r more optimised for NVIDIA's architecture (especially HAWX,Mafia and CRYSIS 2 and GTA IV which glitches so much on AMD cards),a GTX560Ti will do the job just fine.And personally i don't suggest a physx card :/
Other than that follow MARSTG,he knows what's good for you :)

great_big_abyss February 3, 2012 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Lyserberg (Post 597981)
Also the CPU u mentionned is not socket FM1,FM1 is an APU socket,the socket must be AM3 or AM3+ to support that.

Wrong. Athlon II X4 631 is a llano FM1 chip, and is specifically on the motherboard's CPU support list.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyserberg (Post 597981)
GTA IV will need a lot of CPU goodness,i suggest no less than 4 real cores (an AMD Phenom 2 X4 or a bulldozer will do the trick)

I ran GTAIV when it first came out on a 1.8GHZ dual core processor. I was limited more by my video card than by the processer.

Also, the Athlon II X4 631 IS a quadcore chip... Hence the X4!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyserberg (Post 597981)
,a GTX560Ti will do the job just fine.

A GTX560Ti is $100 more than either a 6850 or a 6870. This is a budget build, and AMD GPU's typically provide much better bang for your relative buck.


To the OP: If you can afford to go with an A8 3850 APU, I don't think it would be a horrible idea. It's definitely a faster processor than the Athlon, plus you have the advantage of crossfireX-ing the IGP and your discrete card. I'm pretty sure that IS possible.

Another alternative would be to stay with the Athlon, and move to a 6870 GPU. The difference between the 6870 and the 6850 should be the same as the difference between the 3850 and the 631 (about $30)

neojjjk February 3, 2012 10:05 AM

MB : Gigabyte A75M-S2V, socket FM1
CPU: AMD A8-3870K 3GHZ
RAM : Kingston 8GB 1333MHz DDR3 Non-ECC CL9 DIMM (Kit of 2x4GB)
HDD : Western Digital Caviar Blue KX, 500GB, 16MB, 7200rpm, SATA 3
GPU :MSI N550GTX-Ti Cyclone OC
PSU :XFX Core Edition PRO550W

Lyserberg February 3, 2012 11:45 AM

Dammit!they told me FM1 only supports APU!? that's weird?!
When i talked about GTA IV,i really meant the margin BTW last generation cards and the actual cards we have here,if u grabbed a GTX260 and run it at 1920x1080,i'm sure the card will do 60FPS (not constantly) just fine as a GTX590,the thing is GTA IV isn't really taking advantage of the current generation video cards,but buying more powerful CPU and Overclokcing it proved to have significant impact,probably more than going as i said from just an old GTX260 to a GTX590.The CPU is a very important factor in games like GTA IV.
I suggested NVIDIA based on the type of games he want to play,so i'd say that NVIDIA may be the best bang for the buck in the majority of those games,probably he can go for another card on the NVIDIA line of graphics cards,but afterall an AMD video card will do just fine :)

snatchby February 3, 2012 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyserberg (Post 598046)
Dammit!they told me FM1 only supports APU!? that's weird?!
When i talked about GTA IV,i really meant the margin BTW last generation cards and the actual cards we have here,if u grabbed a GTX260 and run it at 1920x1080,i'm sure the card will do 60FPS (not constantly) just fine as a GTX590,the thing is GTA IV isn't really taking advantage of the current generation video cards,but buying more powerful CPU and Overclokcing it proved to have significant impact,probably more than going as i said from just an old GTX260 to a GTX590.The CPU is a very important factor in games like GTA IV.
I suggested NVIDIA based on the type of games he want to play,so i'd say that NVIDIA may be the best bang for the buck in the majority of those games,probably he can go for another card on the NVIDIA line of graphics cards,but afterall an AMD video card will do just fine :)

i never understand what you are saying ever... maybe try an english dictionary? anyway you dont need a quad core for gtaIV and you dont need a $700 video card. any decent card with 1gb+ ram will suffice @1920x1080. Nvidia is also no more "bang for your buck" than amd/ati is, its all a matter of preference.


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