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s_mack January 2, 2012 10:09 AM

Does Intel Quick Sync suck? Or is it something else?
 
So I got a new system recently. One thing I was building around was the 2600k SandyBridge and a z68 mobo so I could take advantage of the vaunted Intel Quick Sync technology for transcoding video. All the reviews said how blazing fast it was... none said that it resulted in crappy unplayable video! So I'm trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong.

My goal is to rip my DVDs to MKV so I can store them on HDD and play them on my Asus O!Play for watching on TV and my Asus Transformer Prime Tablet for watching on the go.

I stick a DVD in the PC and use AnyDVD to rip it to VOBs on my PC. No problem so far.
I open up DVDFab 8 and encode it to MKV h.264. No problem so far.
It finishes a full DVD in under 6 minutes! That rocks!

problem. The playback is choppy. VERY chopping. Unwatchable choppy. No, I'm not being picky... nobody would watch it. Its that bad. The "quality" of image is fine - that's not the issue.

I can fix it two ways:

1) I can turn on 2-pass. NO WAY! That turns OFF Quick Sync. Defeats the purpose as it now takes 45 minutes to finish. Screw that.
2) I can crank up the bitrate to some insane number like 10000kbps and then it works. But now the file is 2 to 3 times the size of the DVD and this just shouldn't be necessary.

I searched and searched and it seems that most people aren't having this problem. I tried different software packages (including everyone listed by Intel as being compatible) and it always results in the same thing. I've tried different frame rates to no avail.

I'm left wondering if either I have a defective 2600k somehow... or if its the motherboard (Asrock Fatal1ty z68 pro)?

I took out the discrete video cards to rule that out as the issue. It made no difference.

Frustrated!

- Steven

enaberif January 2, 2012 10:16 AM

why are you converting a dvd to mkv? convert dvds to xvid.

s_mack January 2, 2012 01:42 PM

Can`t even compare the two. MKV is a container and xvid is a codec.

Doesn`t really answer my question anyway.

JD January 2, 2012 02:23 PM

I think what he meant was to use the AVI container and XviD as the codec as that's typically what you'd rip DVD's to as they're low-quality to begin with.

It's possible that QuickSync doesn't like MKV? No harm in trying AVI...

s_mack January 2, 2012 02:51 PM

quick sync can't do xvid it seems

lcdguy August 14, 2012 08:31 AM

did you try using x.264 just for S&G :) and maybe try using mp4 as the container.

s_mack August 14, 2012 09:07 AM

Curious what in the world made you dig up this old thread?

Anyway, I abandoned Quick Sync months ago. While it is ridiculously fast, the resultant files were just not acceptable no matter what I tried. I got it "fairly good' after awhile, and if my point was to share mid-quality files on the net or watch them on a 3" screen that'd be fine... but I was looking to archive my DVD collection and it was nowhere near good enough. Instead I used my graphics cards' hardware and handbrake. It takes 2-3 times as long but the quality is SO much better its not funny.

- Steven

lcdguy August 14, 2012 09:36 AM

bored at work i guess :haha:

great_big_abyss August 14, 2012 09:59 AM

There is a great article at The Tech Report talking about this very issue. It compares different hardware encoding options, from QuickSync (Intel) to VCE (AMD) to NVENC (Nvidia) measuring picture quality and time. Quite the interesting article, in fact.

Wam7 August 16, 2012 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s_mack (Post 648409)
Curious what in the world made you dig up this old thread?

Anyway, I abandoned Quick Sync months ago. While it is ridiculously fast, the resultant files were just not acceptable no matter what I tried. I got it "fairly good' after awhile, and if my point was to share mid-quality files on the net or watch them on a 3" screen that'd be fine... but I was looking to archive my DVD collection and it was nowhere near good enough. Instead I used my graphics cards' hardware and handbrake. It takes 2-3 times as long but the quality is SO much better its not funny.

- Steven

It looks like you found out the same way as me how poor Quicksync is; funny how very few of the articles at the time mentioned it. It is very limited, won't ever support 2-pass encoding and probably only equivalent to x264 Ultra fast setting - which is not for anything of quality.
Handbrake and Cuda are good for x264 but don't use them for Xvid encoding.


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