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Old June 2, 2011, 04:55 AM
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Default New bigadv project, called "bigbeta" - now Live with bigadv under Linux

I think Kasson is underestimating the requirements for those new WUs... from the FAH beta forum:

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We are preparing to release a new A5 bigbeta/bigadv project. This one will be a little larger than the current generation of A5 projects, and it will enable us to tackle a new set of important scientific questions.

Because the work units are a bit larger, we are setting higher memory and processor limits:
2G RAM, 12 cores
We may adjust both of these as necessary.
We'll also start these work units out as 64-bit Linux only.

Initial points values and deadlines are similarly subject to change but currently stand at:
Base points: 30964
Deadline: 17 days
Preferred deadline: 10.2 days
k-factor: 26.86
10 days?

Flag is -bigbeta, -bigadv and -advmethods are not required. Preferably setup Client with 3-4Gb of ram. The WUs are available now.
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Old June 2, 2011, 05:43 AM
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10.2 days with a points value of just under 31K? Are they out to lunch or something?
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Looks ok to me. bigadv points come mostly from the bonus. bigadv bonus is x10.68, bigbeta is x18.13 / 4 days preferred deadline vs. 10.2 days.

Iit will be interesting to see the quad-socket rigs and the performance associated. Though being an -advmethod Wu, the chances of failure are quite high.
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a bit larger....... 4 days deadline from the old work to 10 days for new one... this is not what i call i bit larger.

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yeah but lots can go wrong in those 10 days lol..what if you fold for 9 and it crops out on the 10th,deletes current wu and starts again?

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I don't think they will take 10 days though, Dan, but I would agree that a lot could theoretically go wrong! Considering they are beta that could be a possibility.

I think the flag should become -mybetaisbiggerthanyourbetabigadv

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It may not run Crysis.. but does it blend?
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The leap from regular SMP projects to the original bigadv projects was significantly larger and fraught with peril. This will be a much smoother transition, I'm sure. I'm interested in the message being conveyed by the lower limit of 12 logical processors. What's your interpretation of this? I'd bet dollars to donuts overclocked 8-thread i7's could do these projects in 10 days no probs. I'd say the new limit is intended to encourage the use of only dedicated folding machines among the most hardcore folding segment. Works for me, but I'd be feeling kinda left out if I was more of a moderate.
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Very much a valid point, and I'll add the fact that these WUs are only available on the Linux Client, going for an even smaller folding crowd.

I don't know why the minimal core increase - especially since the SB Quads w/HT can easily manage a bigadv, with a substantial bonus produced.
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