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Old August 3, 2007, 11:00 AM
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OC-wise, it all depends on the hardware used. With an 680i, OCZ 700W, OCZ Plat 6400, I was able to achieve 3.0GHz stable easily.

As fpr ppd, pscout knows a whole lot more than I do on this matter.

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PS. forgot to add that it was water-cooled.
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the ppd on the 6400 will vary a lot depending on the smp wu's it gets. It was as low as ~1300 ppd running at 3.2 on a cache needy wu (2608/09), up to ~2200 ppd on a 2604/05 wu's. Same clocks with 4mb cache will go from 1800-2200. I am going from memory here and a little browsing of my fahmon benchmarks logs.

An ideal old stock cpu would be a E6600, and a 6400 would be a lot better than a 21x0 because of the larger cache.
If you can swing it any 4mb cache c2d is gonna be best.

2gb is safest for memory size and doesn't cost a lot more that 1 gb these days.

I have read pk5-vm is pretty good ... i am about to build a g33m-ds2r which is gigabyte's ~ equivalent matx. Based on some recent builds and oc's i did on a p5k vanilla and a p35-ds3r, the ds3r wins for energy. They both achieved about the same oc folding but the ds3r consumed ~25W less and oc'ed the same quad using .1V less. The power delta should be lower on a dual core.

From what i have read, no vid card is required even when oc'ing the g33 mobos. But these aren't the cheapest oc'ing mobo's - and the p5k-vm is $20-30 less than the g33m-ds2r. A good cheap oc'ing mobo alternative would be a 965 based mobo like a p5b or gigabyte s3... only needs an 8MB pci video card ~ $10.

ubuntu 7.04 has a livecd that will run all the ones mentioned. I would save all the lost production and hassles tho by using a cheap small hdd. 5-10gb ide should work fine.

Most of my oc'ed quads run on ocz 420 powerstream or enermax 465 just fine. I often use a 520 powerstream on the bench when oc'ing them but i never see a diifference with a 420 powerstream or 465 in production. the 420 is a tank tho - 28A on the single 12v rail. ocz gave me a gamestream 600 as an rma replacement for one.

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Old August 6, 2007, 06:21 PM
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Thanks for all the info guys. I'll look into some of those options this week.
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just one more thought on matx ... prior to the g33 chipset, none of the matx with integrated video were much if any good for oc'ing ... at least not based on my reading over time.
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One more comment re:ubuntu support for onboard nics

... the g33m-ds2r is working fine with with ubuntu 7.04 for a day or so now.... but the p35-ds3r's nic seems to have decided to not work with 7.04 anymore --- it works fine in windows still, but not even the bios 'check cable function' seems to work now. Reinstall does not detect it anymore.
My experiernce with 965-ds3 was also more miss than hit with nic's in ubuntu and most of them now run with pci nics i had to add. Mixture or marvel and realtek chips on the gigabyte mobo's.

Mixed results by others too ... bios levels or configs suspect i guess.

Never had a problem with asus mobos.
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Ok, change of plans. I'm going to go with a full-size ATX MB as overclockable mATX boards don't really seem to exist.

Any ideas on a good budget overclocker board? CPU will be anything from a Pentium D 805 -> E4300.
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The mobo I linked you to above is quite overclockable.
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The mobo I linked you to above is quite overclockable.
That one is mATX. I'm looking for full-size now. Here is the short list.

Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L
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XFX Nforce 650I Ultra

Various cpu's I will be using. Pentium D 850 -> E4300

2 x Patriot Signature PC2-5300 1GB 1X1GB DDR2-667

Some type of old video card.

All suggestions are welcomed.

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Don't go for the XFX - my last 2 were RMA's.... as for the P35-DS3L, I just bought one, testing it as I type this.

E2140 1.45V @ 3.0.
Mushkin PC2-6400 @ 468MHz 5-5-5-18.

Runs great. Booted on 1st try. I'll probably start folding tonight with it.
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as for the P35-DS3L, I just bought one, testing it as I type this.

E2140 1.45V @ 3.0.
Mushkin PC2-6400 @ 468MHz 5-5-5-18.

Runs great. Booted on 1st try. I'll probably start folding tonight with it.
Great. Let me know how well it overclocks.
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