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Old April 9, 2008, 03:56 PM
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My daughter is moving out on her own soon and taking the "shared" PS2 with her. With this in mind, my young lad has suggested that a XBox 360 would be a good idea as a birthday present. Being a hardware wonk, I took a quick look at the two systems, and thought that the PS3 might be the better choice from a pure hardware/features standpoint.

Aside from forking out the change for an original NES, Sega, SNES, Play station, PS1, PS2, Gameboy (original fat one), GameBoy advanced, Gameboy colour (X2), and a Gameboy DS, I'm utterly clueless when it comes to consoles so I'm looking for suggestions.

So far my understanding is that the 360 pretty well has a lock on the best game titles, that Xbox live rocks, and that the Red Ring Of Death issue is a thing of the past.

The down side is that Xbox live is a paid service, it doesn't ship with a HD player, wireless adapters are also add-ons.

PS3 comes with blueray, it connects wirelessly out of the box, on-line play is mostly free.

Downside is that it lags behind in top games, and current hardware versions have very limited backwards compatability.

Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Old April 9, 2008, 04:10 PM
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Playstation 3:
Blu-Ray out of the box (Blu-Ray profile 2.0)
Free Online Play (it doesn't suck like people claim)
Hard Drive (40gb/60gb/80gb, if you can find a 60)
WiFi out of the box (No extra $120 addon)
7 Blue Tooth Connections (Use any Blue Tooth head set you want)
Internet Browser
USB Keyboard/Mouse support
Video/Voice Chat
Reliable Console

A pretty decent selection of titles to choose from with an incredible 2008 line up and even better 2009 line up. The PS3 is the best option in my opinion, not only are you getting more for your money, but you don't have to worry about those gremlins inside your console which the 360 still suffers from.

I hardly use my Xbox 360 so i will let some body else do that part.
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Old April 9, 2008, 04:11 PM
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Personally I would opt for the PS3 just for the blueray player alone.
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Old April 9, 2008, 05:01 PM
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Another question.........

Is there a simple HDMI-DVI adapter which will allow consoles to be plugged into a standard LCD monitor, or is there more to it than that?
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You should be able to use a HDMI to DVI cable
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Old April 9, 2008, 05:37 PM
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Playstation 3:
Blu-Ray out of the box (Blu-Ray profile 2.0)
Free Online Play (it doesn't suck like people claim)
Hard Drive (40gb/60gb/80gb, if you can find a 60)
WiFi out of the box (No extra $120 addon)
7 Blue Tooth Connections (Use any Blue Tooth head set you want)
Internet Browser
USB Keyboard/Mouse support
Video/Voice Chat
Reliable Console

[blabbity bla bla]
Xbox 360:
Who needs high-def anyways? It can still do 1080p AFAIK.
Online play that actually works and is lag-free if you have half-decent tubes (Since it's a paid service they actually strive to make it better)
120GB HDD (on the Elite), bigger than any PS3's HDD ATM.
The wireless adapter doesn't cost $120 anymore, it can be had for ~$45 if you know where to look.
Who needs bluetooth? The 360 already comes with a great headset.
If you have internet then you probably already have a PC, they are used to lurk the tubes.
USB keyboard support, who needs a mouse? It's a console not a PC.
Reliable console (RROD = basically non-existent now, and my 360 is the launch model and hasn't suffered a single RROD.)

I'd go with the 360, you wont regret it. There's even rumors that Microshaft is making an external Blu-Ray player for it too. And the online is actually worth it. If you calculate it, it only costs about 1.3 cents a day; and since the people making it know people are paying for it at least they actually make some effort to make it good. (My friend Mohamed has a PS3 and he says the online play lags horribly 75% of the time )

TBH the only game which the 360 doesn't have which would mildly interest me on the PS3 is MGS4, but I find that MGS is overrated.

Oh and one last thing before I brace myself for the incoming flames, fanboy labeling, and questioning of my sexuality and/or comments telling me to put things in various orifices: You want to play UT3 with a keyboard and mouse? Then get in on freaking PC!
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None. Turn your son into a PC gamer.
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None. Turn your son into a PC gamer.
Unfortunately neither my son nor my daughter have exhibited any interest in the hardware side of owning/using a PC so I find myself reluctant to start them down the never ending upgrade/patching path of hardcore PC gaming.

They both seem quite content with computers for internet/productivity apps, and consoles for gaming.

From a price point, it's also IMO more cost effective to pick up a gaming console every 3 or 4 years. At the same time, 3 or 4 year old computer tech for them is quite affordable while continuing to provide all the power they need for what they want to do.

Moneyless;

You won't get any flaming from me, and I certainly won't be calling into question the nature of your birth........ :)

I'm looking for honest opinions, and yours certainly fits that bill.

One of the issues I have is that I am opposed to the pay/play model unless it actually includes ongoing content creation. I suppose Diablo II spoiled me in that regard, but I myself don't feel a person should have to both pay to purchase a game, and then also pay to play the game.........

On the HD player side of things.... apparently, while the Xbox only ships with a DVD player, it at least appears to do a decent job of upconverting DVD movies so I've added that to the + side of things.

At the end of the day, it's ultimately going to come down to what my young lad decides.... I've mentioned my own personal opinion on the hardware side of things, but that's moot if he's not going to play games on a $500 machine with "better" hardware. :)
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and that the Red Ring Of Death issue is a thing of the past.
The Red Ring of Death issue isn't a thing of the past... I bought my console at about... November and I recently just had the RRoD. Luckily, there is a permanent fix to the RRoD as microsoft wont fix my box. So, if I were you, I'd go for a PS3.
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The Red Ring of Death issue isn't a thing of the past... I bought my console at about... November and I recently just had the RRoD. Luckily, there is a permanent fix to the RRoD as microsoft wont fix my box. So, if I were you, I'd go for a PS3.
What model did you get?

My understanding is that the new (ultimate?extreme?) models have vastly improved cooling, and that the GFX module has been moved to a better location which allows for some airflow.
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