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Old November 29, 2012, 07:05 PM
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I never thought of that... I've been doing MP1, but VoA + key runs would go pretty quick on MP0. Do keys still drop on MP0?

edit... NVM... VoA is act II. Still Act 3 fields are fairly target rich as well....... ;)

edit#2.... Nope... no keys for MP0

Not exactly, there is only a 5% chance of keys dropping on MP0 :(
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Old November 29, 2012, 07:07 PM
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and what... 10% on MP1? In all honesty the quicker runs would probably overcome that difference pretty quick, although you'd have to do twice as many runs for the same chance.
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Old November 29, 2012, 07:10 PM
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Yeah, 10% on MP1 all the way up to 100% on MP10.

I was quite disappointed last night after spending almost 40 minutes getting 5 stacks and killing the keywarden in Act 4 on MP8 for no reward at all.
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Old November 29, 2012, 07:15 PM
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Act4 keywarden? what for? Isn't that just the one time plan drop? But nothing dropped on 5 stacks? Yeah that bites big time.
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Old November 29, 2012, 08:35 PM
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Hrmmmm.... doesn't seem more efficient for a low(ish) DPS single player tank.... the elites go down a bit quicker, but the mobs seem to be about the same. I don't think there's enough differenct in HP for it to be worth my while running mp0 vice mp1.
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the main difference for mp0 vs mp1 is actually that in mp1 every monster is guaranteed to be lvl 63 and rolls are now based on monster level not item level so it can make quite a bit of difference in that regard. But in any case the odds are not in your favor for keys or organs in the lower mps. Your better off focusing on gear/xp runs and just swinging by the warden on your farm.

Though I've also had rubbish luck in mp7/8 before in a3, where it took 4 runs to get a key. And then there was my first mp9 uber run which gave me 2/4 of the items which just plain amused me.

I just want to say the amount of dps need to clear mp8 over 7 is a bigger jump than I was expecting. I can basically run through 7 without too much trouble at this point, reflect damage/molton still gives me a little trouble, but mp8 slowed me down massively. I tried mp10 for a moment, just to see if I could survive it, and wow each monster takes minutes to kill even at my monks fully buffed dps.
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the main difference for mp0 vs mp1 is actually that in mp1 every monster is guaranteed to be lvl 63 and rolls are now based on monster level not item level so it can make quite a bit of difference in that regard.
This is true on Act 1 & 2. Monsters in Act 3 & 4 are already level 63, so MP levels have no effect on the item rolls.

I just finished farming keys for 3 machines, MP5 seems to be a pretty good sweet spot for me right now. I can do MP8 but it just takes sooooo long to down elite packs it isn't worth it right now.
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You sure? I was under the impression of otherwise but then again I haven't actually looked it up. Will make me progressing secondaries faster anyways.
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You sure? I was under the impression of otherwise but then again I haven't actually looked it up. Will make me progressing secondaries faster anyways.
Yep, A3 all critters are mlvl 63 with a couple of exceptions: Those fallen mages & one other one...can't recall which now.

After seeing how dominating good CMWW wiz's can be vs ubers I'm leveling my baby wizard to grow into one. At least with MP10, a hellfire ring & Cain's set the levels come fast. Just dinged 44 so equipped a 800 dps -16 lvl req axe I'd been holding on to. That was a slight DPS upgrade from the 80 dps weapon I had been using...

Most uber runs I do now are minimum MP8 so pretty good chance of organs. I think I have about 10 junk rings sitting in my stash now.
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