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Old October 14, 2009, 07:22 PM
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K well if you want to talk money on saving people I would say putting that thousands of dollars for a folding farm into something that is garanteed to save someone instead of a 1/10000000 chance (just pulling a number out of my butt). Seems like a bad investment to me. Why not put that grand or two in a charity like a food drive so people can eat or sponsor a child or donate directly into cancer research instead of putting it into folding which has no proof that it can cure cancer. I know you want to do something(my mom had cancer) but put your money where it will actually do something. I am just ranting against pure folding farms but if you want to fold on your useable computer than I have no problem and would encourage it. Just angry when people waste thousands on a pc that for the most part does nothing while people are starving in their city and across the world.
Theirs nothing wrong with putting a little money in to a hobby( Computers,F@H,Farms,ect...) Most people spend more on booze and smoke every weekend(another good hobby), than PC stuff. Nothing wrong with spending a little bit of money on entertainment
You have any idea how much money is donated to cancer every year, I don't but it's got to be huge, And their no closer than F@H at finding a cure. Most scientist's are looking for a Cure, But that means you will still get cancer, just if found soon enough they may save you, F@H is looking at how Proteins work and how they fold or unfold in hopes to under stand why cancers form in the body, If you know why people get cancer you might be able to stop it before you get it, But if all you want is a cure( That cost a arm and a leg, And poor people will still die because they cant afford it). I would like to see cancer totally eradicated, Stopped before it starts,So people can grow up cancer free and save money because they dont need to buy some stupid prescription. And I think F@H has a good chance of that.
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Old October 15, 2009, 06:26 PM
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Well I guess your right....

I have a second pc for quests and since my best friend has a crappy old P4 but loves PC gaming I built it mainly for him although all of the parts were hand me downs from my current PC :p.

I just think Americans and Canadians don't donate enough money to charity (unless you think porn is a charity). See we spend double the amount of money on porn than we give away. That is just one example. The average American only gives between 2.5%-4.5% of their income away. That is low for some people. The poor give the most in percentage and is o.k. but if you are making a lot of money and only give 3% away that is peanuts. You would think if you made 100k you could give 10k away. Or if you made 200k you could give a lot more. Hopefully with a lot of families hurting people will open up their wallets a bit more to help the needy. It makes me so angry when someone that is wealthy doesn't want to give to a poor person that is starving because they think they are lazy or don't deserve it. Have you thought that they may be working hard, maybe harder than you but life is just not going fair for them. I am sure if you lost your job and needed food you would think differently.

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Q. How much do the rich in America give, compared with everyone else?
A. In order for a person to give money away, he or she must have it in the first place. Not surprisingly then, income and charitable giving in America are positively related. For example, in the year 2000, families earning $20,000 or less gave an average of about $450 to charity, while families earning more than $100,000 gave away an average of a bit more than $3,000. The top 10 percent of households in income are responsible for at least a quarter of all the money contributed to charity, and households with total wealth exceeding $1 million give about half of all charitable donations. The American rich are generous, on average.

Yet when we measure monetary giving as a percentage of income in order to ascertain the level of one’s “sacrifice,” we find a surprising result: it is low-income working families that are the most generous group in America, giving away about 4.5 percent of their income on average. This compares to about 2.5 percent among the middle class, and 3 percent among high-income families.

One common explanation for the fact that the working poor give so much is, not surprisingly, religion. The working poor tend to belong to congregations that are relatively literal about Biblical injunctions to give. Data from 2000 show that these poor American families were roughly twice as likely as middle-class families to be Seventh-Day Adventists, Pentecostals, or Jehovah’s Witnesses. They were also significantly less likely to belong to more “mainline”—and less stringent—denominations such as Episcopalian, Methodist, and Presbyterian.
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Old November 3, 2009, 10:23 AM
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I just thought I would remind you gamers that HWC is having a F@H contest http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...ored-asus.html . The winner gets a GTX 285, Perfect for any game. Folding@Home, The best game out their.
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Old November 3, 2009, 10:27 AM
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How much do you donate then belgolas?
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Old November 3, 2009, 06:24 PM
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This year about $6000 and I only make about $24000 a year. Granted this year I donated a lot more than previous years (to make up for the lack of giving last year which was only about $1000). Also I don't have many expenses because I am living with my parents and my only regular bill is my phone.


After some thought I am starting to fold more. What the heck I already have the computer so why not. I may get my second computer to fold soon too once I get off my butt and install windows 7 final already for it lol.

Thank you ASUS for the contest. Wouldn't mind winning one of those :p.
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Old November 3, 2009, 06:33 PM
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People can give in more ways than one. Some folks give with their time (time which could be spent working to make money, etc).

'Poor' people do tend to give more as a percentage, but religion may not be a part of it. I donate lots of money and time each year, because I came from a poor background and I remember what its like not to have anything. I give more to organizations (like the Salvation Army) that me and my family used often.

I get angry at the 'lazy' tag as well; while there certainly lazy poor folk, most of the poor people In know (many family) are not lazy but have other factors that make them poor.
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Old November 3, 2009, 06:35 PM
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It's also difficult to do a direct comparison between money donated directly to a cause and money donated to research. It's the old "give a man a fish vrs teach a man to fish" idea.......

On one hand, direct donations to a cause (like a local foodbank etc.....) do address an immediate need, but in the long run are mostly just a bandaid solution to something that needs a systemic solution. Donating to research on the other hand doesn't offer immediate relief, but in the long run stands a much better chance of making the world a better place.

If you want to rail against folks who "misplace" their charity funds, have a look at the folks who pour money into groups like PETA when there are human beings just down the street who don't have enough to eat.
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If you want to rail against folks who "misplace" their charity funds, have a look at the folks who pour money into groups like PETA when there are human beings just down the street who don't have enough to eat.
Agreed. While I am an animal lover, and have rescued pets on a few occasions, I spend most of my time and energy on human beings.

This is what makes folding so great in my opinion. You can turn a fun hobby (PC hardware, being on a team) into something that can do long-term good for everyone.
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Old November 3, 2009, 06:41 PM
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folding@home is the best game EVARRRR.

I liked the second level the best. The storyline rocked.
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Old November 3, 2009, 07:03 PM
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Is there a way to fold in SLI or no?
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