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Old February 5, 2013, 07:48 AM
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Hmm, that doesn't seem right, your experience is quite the opposite of mine. When did you buy your panel? I got mine about a month ago.

I came from 3 Dell u2312HM 23" 1920x1080 displays in eyefinity. Even a single 23" Dell U2312HM had more evident motion blur than my X270OC. The U2312HM had slightly less input lag (something I was comfortable sacrificing coming from 3x1920x1080 to a single 2650x1440). This new 120 refresh rate was very evident in games like Guild Wars 2, TF2 and L4D2 and even caused two of my close friends to buy their own X270OC immediately after trying out mine. As I have said before, the panels that are being used are the same panels used in the 27" Apple Cinema Display. Luckily for me my wife has two of them so I have had the opportunity to compare them side-by-side in order to see the Tempest excel above and beyond the capabilities of a stock 27" 2560x1440 60Hz panel (same goes for the 27" Dell).

You are correct, the panels don't use an overdrive function as that causes dark discolored trailing and major artifacting issues beyond 60Hz. I will admit that there are a select few monitors that do use Overdrive effectively but the BenQ XL2420T and the Dell U2312HM are the only shining examples that I can think of. Most other monitors including the old BenQ XL2410T have a horrible Overdrive implementation.
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You don't really need a super rig to power that resolution. If you can afford a $500 monitor a single decent graphics card is the least of your worries. Although two graphics cards would be just sublime, a single $300-$400 graphics card (570, 670, 6950, 6970, 7950, 7970) can run most games at 2560x1440 just fine. I'm using a 6950 flashed to a 6970 that is overclocked to 940/1450 and I can run most games max and still get well over 100fps (excluding Far Cry3 and Chivalry). I get better framerate now than I ever did in eyefinity :).

The problem that I have seen (besides being just a 1080p Twisted Neumatic panel) with the BenQ XL2420T is that it blows out the brightness and causes the colors to look slightly washed out. I'm not saying the overlord is perfect but it does a pretty phenomenal job for being an extremely affordable 27" 2560x1440 display capable of up to 120Hz.

For someone who is interested in 2560x1440 displays, I don't think there is a better choice or better price imho.
We probably were on the same shipment "boat" as I received mine December 19th or 20th here in Toronto.

Actually the XL2420T doesn't have a perfect overdrive implementation, but with the lightboost trick from [H] ard forum it is basically completely motion blur free and even overdrive trailing is reduced, but sharper which is weird, though invisible during gaming.. The Lightboost implementation helps keep it brighter with 3D, but the trick involves turning on Lightboost but not 3d processing. With the lightboost set to nearly zero on the monitor's OSD I find it to be good, if not a tiny bit "flickery". It's my gaming only monitor as I have a better screen for reading/photo stuff, and slower paced gaming.

In general, out of the box, the XL2420T is disastrous in terms of calibration. It definitely needs adjusting, and further more with LightBoost enabled due to the reddish tint.

Yeah the Overlord is basically an A- panel with the custom Catleap PCB for 120hz. It's the same panel as the ACD 27" but the ACD 27" is a premium A panel versus the A- in the Achieva Shimian, Catleap, Overlord, et al.

Now that I have my SLi GTX 670 rig up and running maybe I'll try it again at 120hz with the Overlord and see what happens. Previously I was using it with a single GTX 680 on an A8-3870K, so that may be holding back the GPU.


I just found that it wasn't as impressive as a 1080p TN 23" or 24" even without the lightboost trick in terms of motion blur only (and not taking into account the superior image quality of the IPS 27").


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Thanks for all the replies guys.

I went a head and pulled the trigger on the Asus PB278Q today just because I got it for a really good price at a local shop that guaranteed me I could return it within 30 days if I have any problems with it or defects.

I really do like the Dell displays but some of the user reviews on the Dell website kind of scared me off. I will report back with results on the ASUS once I receive it and let you guys know if I end up keeping it or taking it back.

If I do end up returning it, I will go ahead and order the Dell next.

Thanks again guys!
Let us know what you think. It is a PLS screen so it should be pretty darn nice! Local is always best to avoid shipping charges and other issues.

Good luck!
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Old February 5, 2013, 08:12 AM
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Isn't that the law?

Scared of dell? please say more what did you read..
Everything I've heard and experienced (and from knowing people who worked for Dell IE) tells me they are top notch on customer service
The reviews on the Dell site itself.

That being said, it is a lot easier for me to return the ASUS to the local store than having to go through the return process with Dell. Basically it was a cost / convenience decision being my first "high" end monitor. If the ASUS turns out to have not been worth the savings in cost, than I will return it and go with a Dell.

The ASUS is suppose to arrive tomorrow so time will tell.
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Old February 5, 2013, 08:34 AM
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Yeah the Overlord is basically an A- panel with the custom Catleap PCB for 120hz. It's the same panel as the ACD 27" but the ACD 27" is a premium A panel versus the A- in the Achieva Shimian, Catleap, Overlord, et al.
Well, quick correction, they offered an A- but they also sell the grade A. They just no longer offer their pixel perfect service as it was too demanding from their Chinese supplier. They said they will bring back pixel perfect again in the future though.

Anyway, back when we bought our panels they offered an X270OC Grade A- for $469.99. Now they only list X270OC Grade A panels for $529.99.

Both myself and one of my friends got a grade A Tempest x270OC.
My other friend saved the money an bought a grade A- Tempest x270OC.

We just had a lan party two weekends ago and we cannot tell the difference but the Grade A panels both came with a little sheet detailing the inspection and panel quality listing details such as a "Stuck/Dead pixel"

Yeah, give your Overlord another shot and be sure to overclock the panel to at least 115Hz. I am a firm believer that once you try a fast paced game like Far Cry 3 or even a racing game, you may not be able to go back to your TN panel(s)
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personally i have been rocking a 2711 from just before Christmas and it's been great. But i would never pay full price for it.
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Old February 12, 2013, 09:18 PM
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So I don't have the first clue how to properly "review" a monitor so I'll just leave my feedback with the ASUS PB278Q since I purchased it.

The monitor looks great, I haven't changed any of the settings out of the box because it looks amazing to my eyes, Downloaded some 2560x1440 photographs and couldn't believe how great they looked.

I set the screen to a black wallpaper and turned off all the lights in the room to look for backlight bleed or white spots and so far haven't had any. I also haven't been able to find any stuck or dead pixels using a white background or black background.

I have only tried Borderlands 2 and Team Fortress 2 at 2560x1440 so far and didn't notice any ghosting that I can see. I am not entirely sure if Borderlands 2 looks any better or not, TF2 didn't seem to look different at all, maybe that is just me though.

The extra desktop space is awesome for multitasking it has made working on videos a lot easier now that I can have more windows open on the desktop.

Overall I am happy and impressed and glad I saved some money going with the ASUS.

Now I just need to buy a better video card
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So I don't have the first clue how to properly "review" a monitor so I'll just leave my feedback with the ASUS PB278Q since I purchased it.

The monitor looks great, I haven't changed any of the settings out of the box because it looks amazing to my eyes, Downloaded some 2560x1440 photographs and couldn't believe how great they looked.

I set the screen to a black wallpaper and turned off all the lights in the room to look for backlight bleed or white spots and so far haven't had any. I also haven't been able to find any stuck or dead pixels using a white background or black background.

I have only tried Borderlands 2 and Team Fortress 2 at 2560x1440 so far and didn't notice any ghosting that I can see. I am not entirely sure if Borderlands 2 looks any better or not, TF2 didn't seem to look different at all, maybe that is just me though.

The extra desktop space is awesome for multitasking it has made working on videos a lot easier now that I can have more windows open on the desktop.

Overall I am happy and impressed and glad I saved some money going with the ASUS.

Now I just need to buy a better video card
I purchased a Asus PB278Q from local Staples and they price matched $649.99 from canada computers. The Dell U2713HM is on sale for $629 canadian but after adding shipping cost, would save $22 buying the Del.... Main reason for me to buy Asus PB278Q locally was that it be easier to return if problems with backlight bleeding or dead/stuck pixels. Happy to say no dead pixels, no stuck pixels or backlight bleeding ))))
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