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Old December 18, 2007, 07:22 PM
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You'd be pants-on-head retarded to take a 32" 1080p over a 30" 2560x1600 panel.... The price is so close now....

That said, if you want anything but TN, you're stick with 30". Everything else is going TN *pats Dell 2405 FPW*
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Old December 18, 2007, 09:11 PM
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As far as I know all those Sammy's on the OPs list are S-PVA panels. Ya because so many people were gung-ho about 2ms response times and 22" monitors this year the manufacturers are saying screw the good stuff, everyone's buying the crappy TNs. So that's what they are giving us with many of the new models coming out. Even the new 20" iMac is a crappy TN panel? What a shame about the whole thing. I just hope my 2007WFP lasts long enough to get me through to the next greatest thing at a reasonable price.
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Old December 18, 2007, 09:25 PM
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As far as I know, that 2ms response time for the Samsung's is artificially created, otherwise they're virtually the same as the 5ms models.

...so I went and bought a 2ms model.
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Old December 18, 2007, 09:30 PM
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Same with LG- they now have 5000 ratio and 2ms on their standard tns, and it's all done with smoke an mirrors (and ghosts)
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Old December 18, 2007, 10:19 PM
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Miso, yes 30" would be better for added desktop real estate, yes. But you take a considerable hit in FPS for gaming at that res. I have the most amazing feeling when playing on my screen. It's so immerse, and feels real! Even just playing HL2, everything looks amazing! I also use it as my main desktop screen, and webbrowsing it is MORE than enough space. If you want that kind of desktop space, I would highly suggest going tripple VP930b screens, or tripple VP2030b, for a HUGE resolution, and good dot pitch. I really am not too impressed with the 30" samsungs and Dells. They have me looking all over the place for icons!
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You'd be pants-on-head retarded to take a 32" 1080p over a 30" 2560x1600 panel.... The price is so close now....

That said, if you want anything but TN, you're stick with 30". Everything else is going TN *pats Dell 2405 FPW*

The high end Samsung's are not going TN :)

If you look at my pricing, and the retail of the 245T, and put in that I'm getting a good enough discount to make buying any other brand silly, you'll probably see that the 30" Samsung is looking a lot better than any 32" TV.

The idea of 2560x1600 gaming is attractive and scary... it would probably look awesome, when the video card can handle it. I like all the eye candy on, and there's no way anything is going to run crysis type games at 2560x1600. That's almost twice the pixels over 1920x1200 even... which already kills GPU's. I don't even know how many games support 2560x1600?

I'm strongly leaning towards the 275T at this point, read a few reviews and no one has said the large dot pitch is a serious issue.
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Old December 21, 2007, 05:58 PM
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I have a 3007WFP, so take a guess what recommend ;)

Obviously the 2560x1600 beast; it's truely amazing.

I've used the 305T at work, it's a gorgeous display aside from the lack of HDCP, which was a ridiculous oversight on Samsung's part.

Just to put a little perspective into why i'd suggest 2560x1600 ;)...


Massive amounts of desktop working space! (2560x1600)


A lot less working space...(1920x1200)



UT3 2560x1600


1920x1200


1680x1050


While it is true that games like Crysis will put a beating on any video card out there at that kinda resolution, you can always run at a lower resolution 1:1 (like you see in those pics) :)

And as for small icons/font, that can be remedied by dpi adjustments, or just manually increasing font sizes to whatever is desired (what i do for Windows & browsers).
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Old December 21, 2007, 08:11 PM
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As far as I know all those Sammy's on the OPs list are S-PVA panels. Ya because so many people were gung-ho about 2ms response times and 22" monitors this year the manufacturers are saying screw the good stuff, everyone's buying the crappy TNs. So that's what they are giving us with many of the new models coming out. Even the new 20" iMac is a crappy TN panel? What a shame about the whole thing. I just hope my 2007WFP lasts long enough to get me through to the next greatest thing at a reasonable price.
The iMac uses a VA panel last I checked ... I know my 24" iMac is definitely not a TN ...

Personally, I'd get the 305T given the price differences ...
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Old December 21, 2007, 10:57 PM
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The 20" iMacs do use TNs.

I'd say they're likely the best TNs i've seen, but the best TNs = crap still...
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Interesting ... I'm really glad I got the 24" in that case (even though it's been incredibly unreliable :p)
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