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Old November 1, 2017, 07:50 AM
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To be fair, the processors that came after Sandy Bridge will likely enjoy the same thing. The 3770k, 4770k, etc. It's just that Sandy Bridge was the biggest jump after Westmere/Nehalem.
This strikes a good point. When that unicorn chip comes along that breaks the mold its probably time to consider an upgrade. As previously mentioned chips have shown: If its 8-12% every generation then all of a sudden one chip comes out that raises the bar 20-30% thats probably going to be a special chip for 3-6 years by history. I think this even predates the 2600k or 8400. You can look back further. Athlon 64's did this same thing.
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This strikes a good point. When that unicorn chip comes along that breaks the mold its probably time to consider an upgrade. As previously mentioned chips have shown: If its 8-12% every generation then all of a sudden one chip comes out that raises the bar 20-30% thats probably going to be a special chip for 3-6 years by history. I think this even predates the 2600k or 8400. You can look back further. Athlon 64's did this same thing.
As did C2Ds when they first arrived on the scene.
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Old November 1, 2017, 08:18 AM
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Be careful what you wish for.......

Apparently Ubisoft is attempting to push the gaming limits of a 4C/8T processor by doubling up on the DRM in Assassin's Creed Origins.

https://www.pcper.com/news/General-T...l-DRM-revealed
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Nah even uber-sod.... err UbiSoft is not that stupid. It was FUD. Its using Deno' 4.8. Still a buggy POS game... aka UberSoft bog standard game.

Denuvo is on life support. Their claim to fame is extending the pirate free sales window 1-2 weeks. Now its an average of 5 to 6 days (IIRC recent record is 4 days). No sane company will use v6 in its current form as the lost sales and bad press outweigh extending the sales window.... and v5 is cracked meaning their sales team had better spin stray into gold if they want to stick around long enough for CPU horsepower to catch up with the demands their v6 requires!
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Not doubting the validity of it being FUD, but is there a retraction anywhere? I've been keeping an eye out for any change to the story (it was covered so little that it had a bit of an odour about it from the get go) and haven't seen one yet.
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Retraction... no. Doubtful they ever will officially confirm or deny. But crackers have already taken a look at it and posted pics of what it is and is not. Eg
https://www.reddit.com/r/CrackWatch/...umor_is_false/
Confirmation from Ubisoft that it's not the DRM (to take with whatever size grain of salt you wish.... )

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/...creed-origins/
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Confirmation from Ubisoft that it's not the DRM (to take with whatever size grain of salt you wish.... )

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/...creed-origins/
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Yeah, I didn't find that particularly reassuring either!
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I'm on the fence with this.. I have a 3570k so it would be a decent upgrade. I'm really more interested in the motherboard perks than the performance at this point.
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A minor typo:

ASUS PZ68-V PRO -> LGA1155.
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I don't necessarily agree with the comparison of using the 2600K which is a 4c/8t processor and comparing it to the Coffee Lake 8700K which is a 6c/12t processor. A more accurate comparison would be if the 8700K had 2c/4t disabled making it a 4c/8t processor. Even looking at the results if a software can take advantage of those extra cores and threads it's obvious the 8700K will be superior in those instances. But wouldn't it be better to see just how much processors have advanced when compared as a quad core and not as a hexacore vs a quad-core?
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I don't necessarily agree with the comparison of using the 2600K which is a 4c/8t processor and comparing it to the Coffee Lake 8700K which is a 6c/12t processor. A more accurate comparison would be if the 8700K had 2c/4t disabled making it a 4c/8t processor. Even looking at the results if a software can take advantage of those extra cores and threads it's obvious the 8700K will be superior in those instances. But wouldn't it be better to see just how much processors have advanced when compared as a quad core and not as a hexacore vs a quad-core?
I think they're going for real world performance and not theorectical values or synth benchmarks. Users of the 8700k aren't going to disable cores when they install them. It's not a comparison of 'what's the faster clocked chip' but 'Is upgrading worthwhile', and in a real world comparison you're more concerned with loading and processing times, or FPS in gaming.
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I think they're going for real world performance and not theorectical values or synth benchmarks. Users of the 8700k aren't going to disable cores when they install them. It's not a comparison of 'what's the faster clocked chip' but 'Is upgrading worthwhile', and in a real world comparison you're more concerned with loading and processing times, or FPS in gaming.
Exactly. It isn't a review of performance gains (IPC), it is a review of then vs now and is it worth it to upgrade.
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