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Old June 19, 2017, 06:01 AM
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Intel's X299 platform has finally arrived and with it some unique new Core-X processors. In this review we go in-depth and test the Kaby Lake-X i-7740X's performance & overclocking abilities.

Read more here: The Intel Kaby Lake-X i7-7740X Review
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Old June 19, 2017, 08:55 AM
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Thanks again SKYMTL. This certainly has been a launch that has generated a great deal of frustration.

Your point about the saving grace of the i7-7740X being a lower cost entry into a platform that you can't get much benefit from until you upgrade the processor seems a valid one. I realise that isn't a recommendation from you, just insight I think is good. Even that is a little hard to swallow though; going into a new platform with the plan at the very outset to upgrade to $1000 processor in the future. Certainly would shave a bit of excitement off the upgrade. Then of course you do run the risk of what will happen with those chips you planned to upgrade to as time passes: availability and price. In my mind holding off on an upgrade and saving for the $1000 chip to enter X299 with all the features may make more sense.

It is a tough call to know what to do with X299 and Threadripper. I have been contemplating upgrading my 4790K system to something in the X299 line since Star Citizen announced that they are fully supporting multi-core systems. However in light of all this I think I'll be waiting. It is just really uncertain in my mind which way to point my money!
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Old June 19, 2017, 09:19 AM
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I think I am going to hold off until the whole lineup from Intel is released next year and see what AMD is able to do with x399. This is so convoluted atm that there is no clear path. If AMD can really put pressure on Intel even after they release 18 core parts, should be some really interesting price adjustments.

Until then I will rock a 6850k I got bnib for $500 and call it a day :)

Thanks for the review sky!
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Old June 19, 2017, 10:24 AM
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There are a few things we have to remember about Threadripper before automatically assuming it will be competitive. The Zen architecture has some challenges reaching high clock speeds on the smaller Ryzen processors and there's nothing to think that issue won't carry forward into Threadripper. Therefore, I can see the TR being an awesome multi core beast but I'm not sure it will be a hit among enthusiasts who are looking for high clock rates and overclocking potential. We will see though.
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Meeeeehhhhhhhhhhhh.

I'll wait and see how the lineup fares, but my earlier temptation to do an X299 build is rapidly waning. My 4790k is still going strong and intel's prices are going bonkers.
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Not sure if anyone picked up on it but......

Intel is showing i5-series processors for X299 as well. Honestly, not sure where this is going but I don't think it bodes well for the future of unlocked LGA1151 CPUs.
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Not sure if anyone picked up on it but......

Intel is showing i5-series processors for X299 as well. Honestly, not sure where this is going but I don't think it bodes well for the future of unlocked LGA1151 CPUs.
That'd be ill advised at best. I can think of nothing that would drive me into AMD's arms quicker than a move like that.

I can see one heck of a lot of the low end processors becoming orphaned a lot quicker than 1366 920s did. Who in their right mind is going to pair a used/hand-me-down processor with a motherboard that costs twice as much (retail) as the used proc does? Especially once all of the "bargain" boards are gone from the limited run retail production lines.
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The other problem is differentiation. Look at the X299 diagram. Look at the Z270 diagram. Same damn PCH but one is 50% more expensive. Unreal.
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i5 for the enthuisast platform is a bit head-scratching. I can't tell if they're just trying to saturate and have every possible segment marketed or if it bodes poorly for the future of the ZXXX chipsets :S
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Now if they came out with some kind of riser card to allow current processors to run on the new platform..............

I don't think Intel has ever really been all that keen on allowing overclocking of non-enthusiast SKUs / chipsets. Look at how quickly they dropped the hammer on non "Z" overclocking motherboards.
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